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Shogun VS. Helix VS. Bridge VS. Mantra? Best all mountain?

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PowzillaRex
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Any recommendations or advice? I'm a skier from Ontario who makes trips out west and my Armada AR6s just aren't wide enough for the deeper stuff. So I'm looking for a ski with some width underfoot, float, playfulness, ease of switch riding and can hold it's own in hardpack if need be.
Hoping to get a closeout end of season deal if they're out there (or a used pair)...5'10 but heavier set at 210lbs...best size?

Was looking at the ARV too, although pleased with Armada would like to try another brand.
Since I already have a park/pipe ski I can ride here in Ontario I would like to get something thats substantially wider for west skiing,

Apr 5 2011 1:07PM
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PowzillaRex
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Or if you have any other recommendations based upon my details let me know!
Apr 5 2011 3:58PM
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Banane.
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Salomon 2012
Apr 5 2011 4:26PM
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DUKES
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definitely helixs so much fun. i rode the 187 and im 6'3" 155. they felt pretty responsive, and they ripped groomers pretty well. even took a few park laps. on the stiffer side.
Apr 5 2011 4:28PM
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Pastie
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Line Blends!!

Apr 5 2011 9:35PM
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Pastie
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Line Blends!!!
Apr 5 2011 9:35PM
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PowzillaRex
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Do you think at 5'10 I should have any concern about control at 187? My AR6s are 176
Apr 5 2011 11:32PM
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PowzillaRex
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Do you know how these do off pistE?
Apr 5 2011 11:36PM
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PowzillaRex
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Also in my description there...I'm looking for a more all mountain ski, not looking too really take into the park, mainly just booters in the backcountry
Apr 5 2011 11:39PM
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Pastie
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Being a 100 underfoot, I find the Blends float well for being fairly stiff, and to be honest the Blends are the perfect all mountain ski for me from powder, park, moguls, and grooms.
Apr 5 2011 11:52PM
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pinhead_larry
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VOLKL BRIDGE 2011's. Seriously look into these
Apr 6 2011 12:11AM
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jblaski
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Honestly, the most fun I had on any ski that I demo'd this year (I work at a ski shop, and get to demo a lot of skis), was the K2 Kung Fujas. I really felt invincible on them. I felt that they could charge anything, even more-so than the Obsethed. They're plenty wide enough to ride powder days, but stiff enough to absolutely charge groomers, chop, or chunder conditions.
Apr 6 2011 12:25AM
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PowzillaRex
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Nice, thanks! No complaints over the softer tail?
Apr 6 2011 8:39AM
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PowzillaRex
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Yea...I saw a great deal on these (but missed out on it). Got amazing reviews this year. Out of all these other options discussed however I think it has the smallest underfoot and want to kmow if when it gets really deep if it's the best option.

Apr 6 2011 8:42AM
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Banane.
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Well, they will not be the best in deep power. They will be fine, but the will be better in the park and all around. The kung fujas will be great, i have te older one and tey are ok in powder, so the new one will be better, and maybe mount them whit schizo ?
Apr 6 2011 9:04AM
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jblaski
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Honestly, I didn't feel as if the tail was too soft at all. Whenever I found myself get a bit backseat, the ski just took off. Like I was hitting the gas pedal. Especially compared to the Obsethed's tail, which I felt was just a bit too mushy for really charging crap snow. It's defiantly a ski that loves to be charged and ridden in a forward position. (although, I'd gladly take the Obsethed over the Fujas on a pure powder day).
Apr 6 2011 7:48PM
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Ghini
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Moment PB&J! (new for next year)
101 underfoot, mustache rocker (rocker/camber/rocker), very playfull because it has symetrical flex!! Does it all, dope ski!
Apr 7 2011 5:30AM
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MrLarsen
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Last time I checked the mantra has a fairly flat tail, hence skiing switch will become quite hard. I would probably look at something like the Bridge, Rossi S3, On3p Jmo's, or if you wan't something a bit fatter look into 4frnt Turbo
Apr 7 2011 5:50AM
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PowzillaRex
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4frnt Turbo is a bit too fat for me but if I lived on the west coast I'd highly consider it. Never ridden 4frnt but seems like they've got some loyal customers. Any one comment on ski quality?

Anyways, can't find out whether or not these are 2011 or 2010's and if anything has really changed between the years but check out the good deals on the liberty line-up!:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dsporting&field-keywords=liberty+skis&x=0&y=0
Apr 7 2011 11:02AM
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PowzillaRex
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Yea..mantra is not meant for switch haha, my bad. On3p, just checked em' out...look like nice sticks. Too many options these days.
Apr 7 2011 11:05AM
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