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Marker Griffon Schizo 12

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Rossberger
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I realize this is probably a repost but i have a couple of questions about it before making a final decision.
A) Will the 90mm fit on my 171 ar7s?
B) Is it annoying moving the binding up/down?
C) Should I just mount them at -2.5(factory ) if I'm skiing 60% park, 40% all mountain/groomers, 5'11", 165 lbs?
D) Any cons for these bindings or any suggestions for a binding that would better fit me?
+k for all help
Mar 12 2011 3:03PM
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magicman1
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I'm wondering the same thing, but it seems like the people who haven't broken them love them and the people who have brokem them hate them.

Mar 12 2011 3:21PM
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Rossberger
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Yeah, that's how much it is for most bindings. I don't think I'd break these seeing as I'm not super intense in the park so durability isn't going to be an issue because of that/bc lifetime warranty.
Mar 12 2011 3:26PM
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.RYAN66
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seeing as you are on the east cost there is no real need to have a binding that could move so its not like you are going to be going from park to powder. i mounted mine at center and have no complaints.
Mar 12 2011 5:48PM
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Rossberger
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I heard turning is hard at center, it'd be nice to have the option to switch it around, and i go up to vt once or twice a year so the powder factor is still up there.
Mar 12 2011 8:23PM
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.RYAN66
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yes turning at center isnt as easy as it would be at recomended, but 2.5 isnt much of a difference and for park skiing it helps and i actually prefer a centered ski for free riding, just need to power your turns a little more.
Mar 12 2011 8:27PM
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Rossberger
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I'm also pretty interested in it because from reviews it seems pretty durable and I'm looking for an all mountain/park binding, but I'm open to any other suggestions if you have any.
Mar 12 2011 8:32PM
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NWPA
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It's not very durable. Look into fks/pivot 14's
Mar 12 2011 8:41PM
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Rossberger
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will do, i've been considering pivots
Mar 12 2011 8:53PM
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.RYAN66
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i have px12 jibs and couldnt be happier with them.

probably a mounting problem but still a problem with them.


https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/591635/
Mar 13 2011 7:45AM
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alexg1687
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a) almost certainly, although ask online at backcountry.com on their 24 hour chat. theyll know

b) no its really easy. some people dont even move it that often. i used it to find a comfortable place and i ski them at -2.5cm 90% of the time (on my k2 extremes). when you have to adjust them back for powder its super easy....20 secs a ski

c) i think there's a lot of value in the schizos....its a good design and it means you can move them back if you get a sick powder day. get the best of both worlds for a little bit extra.

d) the binding is super strong..its pretty much a griffon on rails. some people have had the mechanism fail but its very rare and can be warrantied. i haven't had a single problem and ive moved them forward and back heaps of times. its as simple as turning a screw. if you don't like them then i recommend regular griffons. i have those on my armada ar6s and love them. tough as shit.
Mar 13 2011 9:22AM
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Rossberger
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Just read thread, now i'm pretty skeptical of getting schizos on my armadas. @alex thanks, quality response. What fks do you guys suggest, links would be great.
Mar 13 2011 12:03PM
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Rossberger
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Is there any difference between http://www.rossignol.com/index.php?&_lang=US&_cnt=US&alias=ski-men-bindings&function=showProd&insidefile=productDetails.html&oid=CAT1011:ch6v32u7j9e3x

and these http://store.rossignol.com/products/376907 besides color?
Mar 13 2011 12:36PM
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.Hugo.
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no besides the color they are the exact same binding
Mar 13 2011 12:51PM
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Rossberger
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thank you
Mar 13 2011 1:02PM
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adamwhit8
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the schizos are very easy to move back and forth, they give you a little key that lets you stick it in the front and you just rotate it. That being said, do not ride too much park with these, i have them and for me, my right foots binding by the end of the day goes from true center to a -2. If you hit rails a lot or land backseat a couple of times, they can slide a little after a whole day but you wont notice it that much.
Mar 13 2011 8:37PM
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alexg1687
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for the record i have never had this happen
Mar 13 2011 9:16PM
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adamwhit8
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idk all bindings are different so maybe mine just are wierd or something
Mar 13 2011 9:18PM
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NWPA
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fks 140 should be fine for you
Mar 13 2011 9:29PM
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