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Learning how to throw down!

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Jibber@ish
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Hey fellow jibbers!

So, I've just recently gotten hooked on skiing and the whole jibbing scene. I actually bought a pair of twin tips last season, but didn't really use them seriously up until the this point, or this season at least. So anyways, I'm really wondering where to go from now. I believe that I've had some really good progress up so far actualy. I've learned to rail on a pvc pipe which I set up in backyard. I've learned the following rail tricks;

Rail slide (obviously)
Frontside Switch-up (regular and switch out of the rail)
270 out of the rail
K-fed or Frontside Switch-up to blindside 270 out

So thats pretty much my progress on rails so far. I've had some small encouters with some backcountry kickers that I built aswell. So far I've learned the following;

Straight Air
180 Air
360 Air (I'm not safe at it, but I've landed it a few times)
Backflip
Safety Grab

I guess my safest trick is actualy backflip, so I've kinda learned something that I can go further with. I haven't really had any experience with riding switch, other than doing some 180's an turning quickly after I land. I'm mainly thinking of landing non-switch tricks first and then taking that part step by step. I'm really enjoying riding and I would love to progress, I'm kinda stoked on learning some cork rotations and frontflip, but I'm not really sure.

I would love if anyone could give me some idea's, or tell me what I should do to further my progression as a rider both on rail and in air. I'm really stoked on skiing and thanks for any answers guys. Much appreciated.
Mar 11 2011 12:43PM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
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front flips are actually really easy.. ride up to the jump with a kind of altered stance, then right at the lip take a step with your right foot as if you are squashing a bug with your ski. as you do this throw your body forward and tuck into a ball. more than likely you will fail the first couple times but after that your golden. (i learned frontflips on a five foot table) but i would reccomend using at least a 10 foot jump
Mar 11 2011 12:50PM
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Jibber@ish
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Yeah, I have to try that out. How would you compare it to learning backflips? easier or harder?
Mar 11 2011 12:55PM
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Elmo.
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on your rail trying doing some back side switch ups. or u could try doing your unatural slide.
on jumps i would say flat 3's might be good for you. there kinda backflipish and if i knew how to throw em id tell you. but look into it!
Mar 11 2011 12:57PM
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Jibber@ish
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Sounds interesting. But I have to ask, what do you exactly mean by "flat 3's", like cork 3?
Mar 11 2011 1:03PM
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-Marc-
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Flat 3s are basically an off-axis backflip, or a rodeo without a 180 at the end. Just do a backflip, but instead of looking straight back, look over one shoulder while dropping the opposite one. If you spin left, you'll look over your left shoulder while dropping your right. If you do it right, it should feel like it's in between a lincoln and a backflip. I find it also helps if you reach for a Japan grab, it seems to help with the dropping your shoulder part. I actually prefer doing a flat 3 to a backflip, there's more room for error in flat 3's, I used to always have trouble setting the right amount for a backflip, but you can judge a little more with flat 3s. After you've got those, set a little more to the side and rodeo 5 should come around easy aswell
Mar 11 2011 1:17PM
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HERCULES.
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well you can do a backflip and k fed so believe it or not your in the better 50% of ns already lol. Haha since you have access to backcountry try and learn rodeo. there super easy and come easy once you get backy and you have that already. Get your spins next, and then start spinning onto rails. Then get corks, over the next summer go to a camp learn dubs on waterramps/airbag and boom your gana win contests and get the bitches like me!!!!
Mar 11 2011 1:29PM
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pink_squid
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dude really learn how to ride switch well. i spend life haf the day practing switch down groomers. it really helps stomping 180s
Mar 11 2011 1:43PM
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Jibber@ish
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Hehe. Well, I don't exactly have acces to the backcountry: I learned backflips on a type of medium size jump in the forest I guess you could call it xD. I'll will try to practice on flat 3's and then eventually go over to doing rodeos. But any frontflip variasons I could try doing after I got that down? Frontflip with 180 or something, dont really know what that's called though ;D.
Mar 11 2011 2:03PM
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Jibber@ish
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Any thoughts on some frontflip variastions?
Mar 11 2011 3:06PM
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1337
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definitely work on flat threes/wackflips, and rodeos if you feel most comfortable with backflips
Mar 11 2011 3:27PM
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Ski_the_east01
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since you can land backwards comfortable (im assuming) i'd say try and throw a 540..i know a few guys I ride with are very sketchy with 360's but have no problem throwing down 540's because its much more comfortable for them to land backwards
Mar 11 2011 3:35PM
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Jibber@ish
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I'm not that safe landing switch, but I'll give the 540 a go for sure. But I definitely need som input regarding grab variations. All I know so far is how to throw a shitty safety grab in a straight air. I would love to try some grabs with a flip or spin. So I therefore wonder, what's like the easiest grabs for backflips and 3's to begin with?
Mar 11 2011 4:31PM
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tall_t
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backflips + a whole day of riding switch - brits in america guy

Mar 11 2011 4:36PM
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Jibber@ish
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Hehe. Can't really say i understood that though. xD
Mar 11 2011 4:51PM
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Its_Greg
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Before learning something new, I would try to get your 3s to a point where you can grab them and land them with steeze every time. I think the 360 is kind of an underrated trick because when nicely grabbed I think it looks pretty awesome. As for riding switch, just ride down some greens and blues switch for an hour or two. You will see an improvement, plus it's fun to watch all the gapers stare at you in shock lol.
Mar 11 2011 5:57PM
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DIX~
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Spin and slide rails both ways
Mar 11 2011 6:02PM
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monkatizer
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what the hell? u can hardly 3 but u can backflip?? why does everyone flip before they can even spin?? and if ur thinking of going cork anytime soon, u ought ta hav ur 7s down like ever yime befor corks enter ur mind! u should really focous on not inverting, and learn how to spin first!

just my 2 cents

Mar 11 2011 7:17PM
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Jibber@ish
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I guess that I have more control doing a backflip, as weird as that might sound. I'll definitely work on my steadyness when it comes to spins. Anyone know any grabs that would be sweet while doing a 3? I'm thinking of mute, but that might be difficult (I think). Maybe a grab where you don't have to cross your ski's or reach for either ends of the ski, more like a safety grab kind of thingy?
Mar 11 2011 7:59PM
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monkatizer
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oh, really, i nevr thaught about it that way i guess, i just musht have an easy time with spins! but good grabs are: saftey then mute, then blunt with no cross, then blunt crossed, and thne try some ture tails for added steez!

@SkiTheIowa: thats really wierd, if thats true for most then i guess i need to learn how to backflip! but i think flips require balls and training to do more then spins, and i dont have a tramp or pool to do em on so i cant practice off of snow. and yes i have done other fronts on a real park jump, and landed one with one ski, but then fell. look at my pics, and my dins were too low
Mar 11 2011 9:40PM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
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i would say easier just because of the fact that if your rotation comes short you arent catching your tips and eating a ton of shit
Mar 11 2011 11:19PM
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EricaMN.
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yes.
Mar 12 2011 12:50AM
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Jibber@ish
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I remember trying 3's for the first time. Guess I wasn't really comitted enough, I stopped the rotation when I got to 180, it was really frustrating xD. But when I decided to do backflips, I landed it right away. Guess I had 4 tries or something, catching my tip the first 2 times, then landing straight on my skis, but with a little to much weight on my back skis and falling smoothly. The 5th time I stuck it and had literally zero problem doing them again. I actualy have a video of one of my first attempts where I stick the trick, sketchy landing though XD :D:D...


The other one is a bit more safe I guess...

Mar 12 2011 6:13AM
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Jibber@ish
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Mar 12 2011 6:19AM
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304NordMan
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Damn, thats a lot of progress in one year for sure. I would go for fronts and deffinately get your threes on lock. Tha faster you get to learning fives, the better.
Mar 12 2011 8:41AM
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Jibber@ish
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Yeah, I'm gonna practice them as much as I can.
Mar 12 2011 12:20PM
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tall_pants
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a misty 5. its a frontflip 180 i think. correct me if im wrong
Mar 12 2011 5:10PM
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wol
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u are correct
Mar 12 2011 5:17PM
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Jibber@ish
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Lincoln loops seem kind of basic aswell, and is there any such thing as a misty 3? ;S
Mar 12 2011 5:50PM
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monkatizer
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yes, lincolns are sick! in a misty or rodeo the invert counts as 360, so a front 180 would be a misty 540. so i guess a misty 3 would be a fronty?
Mar 12 2011 6:09PM
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Gypsy_Skier
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I think a misty 3 would just be a frontflip xD but otherwise lincolns are really easy. u just have to make sur u dont set off a spin when u set ur rotation or u'll end up doing some weird ass rodeo and eat shit. and if ur most comfortable with backys then definetly try underflips. its basicly a backflip 180 and looks pretty sick when u stomp it.
can anyone find a video of an underflip? i have no clue how to embed
Mar 12 2011 6:14PM
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Jibber@ish
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I guess this is the underflip, am I right?


Mar 12 2011 6:20PM
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3R1C
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No an underflip is a 90-Lincoln loop-90 that was like a cork 5
Mar 12 2011 8:54PM
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Jibber@ish
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Oh yeah, I understand it know xD. This is the one. :D
Mar 12 2011 9:44PM
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