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Cork/rodeo 1080 harder than dub cork 10?

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thankagaper
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yup,
and most dub cork 10s looks like an aerial trick, aint nothin freestyle bout that.
Mar 7 2011 6:00PM
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ninjaski
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Dub Cork 10 = Most overrated Tricks

Mar 7 2011 6:08PM
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PJS.
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nah, just cork once and spin like hell


no i cant do either
Mar 7 2011 6:10PM
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CassiusClay
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Pretty hard to judge seeing as how 99.9% of NS can't do dub cork 10, cork 10, and rodeo 10.  I would imagine in difficulty it would go rodeo 10, dub cork 10, cork 10 though from hardest to easiest though.
Mar 7 2011 6:11PM
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rupert_pupkin
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have u ever done one? let me guess: no. right?
dub10s are way harder than cork10s
Mar 7 2011 6:12PM
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chugLIFE
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i 100% disagree with you.

the majority of dub 10s these days are barely even corked, thsu making them look non-aerials since aerials consists of ONLY completely inverted tricks.

i'd do a cork 10/rodeo 10 way before i'd do a dub 10.

a lot of people learn dub 10s by doing cork 10s and then just starting to dip them differently. sammy and simon for instance.
Mar 7 2011 6:18PM
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ESnake
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same thing as Cosco ... I worked hard on cork 10 before the dub 10. Once you got your cork 9 really easily, cork 10 is just another half-spin. But it's a harder transition than going from cork7 to 9.
Mar 7 2011 6:25PM
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.squirrely.
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no double cork 10s are too easy.  i only do quad cork 2520
Mar 7 2011 6:33PM
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VinniCash
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Henrik's Bio 10 Tail is without a doubt harder than a double cork 10. Why? Who other than Bloody D have we seen do it?
Dumont's cork 10 from the JOSS segment in Reasons is in my opinion WAY WAY WAY cooler than any double cork 10.

dub 10s and sw dub 10s have to be the most overrated tricks in skiing.
Mar 7 2011 6:46PM
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-Marc-
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I can do neither on skis, but on a tramp I can dub 10 but am not able to cork 10. Doubles are just scarier because you're corking twice, which can sometimes end up in a flip, but cork 10's take more skill because you have to know how to pin your body correctly to stop your self from uncorking and going into a second one. Dubs= scarier, cork 10s= harder, same way a frontflip is less scary than back but backflips are easier
Mar 7 2011 6:56PM
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pinhead_larry
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I couldnt agree more
Mar 7 2011 7:10PM
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--ski--
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Really? I find cork nines easier than cork sevens. Landing switch if any inverted/off axis is easier I find.
Mar 7 2011 7:30PM
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Jahrassicpark
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no
Mar 7 2011 7:34PM
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quixotic
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He never said one specific spin was easier, he was talking about transitioning between the amount of spin.. He said the jump from learning cork 7s to cork 9s is easier than learning cork 10s from cork 9s.
Mar 7 2011 7:38PM
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--ski--
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But I mean I learnt cork nines before I did cork sevens. So for me there was no tansition he was talking about. Could just be me though.
Mar 7 2011 7:42PM
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No_Dub
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1 make thread about dubs
2 watch as pros comment
3 think you are tough
4....
5 congratulations, you are now the owner of a successful thread
Mar 7 2011 7:46PM
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icon1234
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Are you guys serious now, your taking this shit seriously? Fucking cork 1080 is so much easier then dub 10, not saying I can do either, but seriously dipping your shoulder down twice is way harder then setting a cork 10 on the lip of the jump. Way more room for error with a dub 10 then with a cork 10.

Also to the kid comparing the tricks based on their difficulty on the trampoline, how exactly can u dub 10 but not cork 10? Your either not doing a dub cork 10, most likely some sort of flippy variation, because I can't even wrap my head around dub 10 and I cork pretty easy on a tramp.
Mar 7 2011 7:50PM
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jreilly
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no there no overrated its just the new trick.

everyone complained about sw 10s and how they are overrated
Mar 7 2011 7:52PM
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ccmountainisback
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I can do both on a trampoline as well, and can see a rodeo 10 being harder than a dub cork 10. Dub cork 10s and corks 10s are easy as long as you commit. Rodeo 10s, not so much. You essentially have to completely open up your body in the middle of the trick, speeding up your spin while slowing down the flip. I've gotten rodeo 9 a couple times, but I cannot seem to get 10...
Mar 7 2011 7:59PM
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mixinup
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ask Russ Henshaw to do a steezy 1080 without dubbling. He'll have a hard time
Mar 7 2011 8:01PM
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-Marc-
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When I set for a cork, it ends up as a cork7. When I set spin harder, I don't know how to slow down the cork so if I commit to the second cork I will do double. They're not that hard actually, just practice overrotating cork 7s onto your back, then jump a little higher and do the double.
Mar 7 2011 8:09PM
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1337
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this
Mar 7 2011 8:16PM
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icon1234
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Serious? Thats like asking Stephen Hawking what 2+2 =s.
Mar 7 2011 8:52PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Dumont did a bio 10 when he won big air with the double front didn't he?

It wasn't nearly as steezy, and I though Henrik got shit on at X because of the uniqueness of his trick/style, but I wouldn't say it is drastically harder than a double cork.

I don't really think that either one is easier or harder than the other, I think that some are easier for some people and others are easier for other people.
Mar 7 2011 8:53PM
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Jpurd
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that was not bio. it was cork
Mar 7 2011 9:37PM
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chugLIFE
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not to argue with you vinnie, but i do know others that have done bio/rodeo 10 tails and what makes that trick potentially more difficult then a dub 10 is the grab.

how many dub TENS have you seen with tail? i'm sure there has been some, but just as you say a bio 10 tail would be harder than a bio 10 mute, which i agree on, a dub 10 tail would be harder than a dub 10 mute.

grabs aside, a dub 10 is harder than a cork 10/rodeo/bio 10

i do agree that a dub 10 is easier than people think, but i'd still rather do a non double 10 anyday.
Mar 7 2011 9:40PM
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tall_pants
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Agreed. But I'm not even close to landing any of these tiricks.
Mar 7 2011 10:28PM
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thankagaper
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who are you kidding, trampolines, bags and water ramps are the only reason dubs exist. you think 13 year olds have done 10s so consistantly that they just started chucking dubs!?  anyone that can wedge fast enough at the jump can learn a dub 10, doesnt anyone remember when BB came on the scene? he learned everything in one summer on a water ramp. i cant think of one NS person that can claim learning dubs on snow other than THALL.

Mar 8 2011 1:07AM
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jreilly
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lol so true sammy cant dub 10 on a tramp haha
Mar 8 2011 1:09PM
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Sallabillz
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flat/rodeos over 9s are fucking hard as shit,cork 10s and 12s are hard as shit
everytime i try cork 10 i do a cork 9 +180 because when i try and spin the actuall cork 10 i dip into dub, u havnt tried cork 12 but have done dub 12s, flat 10 would be scary as fuck i can do them on tramp but i havnt gotten flat 7 and 9s stomped cleanly yet, even though ive done dub flat 9s , i just havnt had much time on big enough jiumps, but ya id say rodeo 10 would be wayyy harder then a dub 10 depends on grabs to
Mar 8 2011 4:58PM
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--ski--
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No. Actually alot of skiers have learnt doubles straight to snow, without the use of airbags and water ramps.
Mar 8 2011 5:41PM
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CassiusClay
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Learned everything in one summer on a water ramp?  What the fuck are you talking about? Nobody gets that good in one summer on a water ramp- you slowly pick shit up as you go through many different ways including water ramps.  Water ramps do help but imagine the amount of time BB spent on tramps, diving boards, or how much he learned just skiing.  And some people/pros do try tricks on snow before a water ramp or tramp because they are so comfortable with their air awareness and can map the trick out in their heads perfectly.
Mar 8 2011 7:21PM
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chugLIFE
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haha who am i kidding?

from personal experience, i'd say the majority of people learn doubles without water ramps/trampolines/airbags etc. i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you have no idea what you are talking about and claiming you cant think of one NS member that can claim learning dubs on snow is one of the most outrageous things ive ever heard hahaha.

theres nothing over special about a double, all it is is a HARDER trick. in no way does someone NEED an airbag or water ramp to learn them, all you need is airsense, the prerequisite tricks, and some balls.
Mar 9 2011 5:54PM
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PJS.
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yall dont go fuckin wit chug
Mar 9 2011 5:57PM
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thankagaper
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/viewvideo/id/140369/ 

Courtesy of Newschoolers.com

im not fucking with anyone^,  if everyone learned dubs through years of skiing and air awareness, we would have more people like harlaut doing true dub flats, and rodeo 10s, not just the FIS standard of the dub cork 10 that is being taught like an aerial trick. so what NS pro or NS member has been hurt constantly each season throwing their shit over kickers?????

ive personally never hit an aerialists water ramp, i was never allowed!!!!!HA!

Mar 9 2011 6:07PM
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PJS.
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i didnt realize there was a standard
Mar 9 2011 7:12PM
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Reed.
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With all due respect, Ive landed a dub 10 before, and have tried a few straight cork 10s, theyre much harder to put to your feet.

The "easiest" way, it seems, to cork 10 is to spin a 3 into a cork 7. Easy on paper, tough to do. When you have a 10 in your mind you tend to spin it pretty hard and go cork right off the lip.

In my opinion, and a few of my friends who have doubles, a single cork 10 is more difficult than a dub 10.

Although, in any competition a dub 10 will score way higher... which is sorta lame. Crowd pleasers.
Mar 9 2011 7:17PM
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skiierman
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depends on the person and how the trick is thrown with what grab... really impossible to say one trick is harder than the other because they're both completely different.
Mar 9 2011 7:19PM
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Blurst
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you are aware that the man you are quoting has a large bag of jump tricks himself?
Mar 9 2011 7:25PM
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JStrathern
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Dub 10's are wayyy scarier on the tramp but easier to rotate than regular cork 10's. Though you do need a bit of air to get around on either so I sometimes have trouble on my tramp with getting past a dub 9.
Mar 9 2011 7:33PM
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