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WorthDaMoney
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so me and my buddies scoped a rail tonight, and saw that there was a sign saying $55 fine for skateboarding and biking that was right beside the rail.

if we hit it with skis, does that sign justify their right to give us a ticket for it, or can they just kick us out?

either way, we're hitting it. just wanna know the facts if something happens
Mar 4 2011 12:02AM
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PJS.
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theyll find a way to fine you.



god speed
Mar 4 2011 12:03AM
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ganja_enthusiast
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yes^

Mar 4 2011 12:04AM
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justinstlaurent
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yeah man, i say you just hit it, and if worse comes to worse you have a 55 dollar fine..
Mar 4 2011 12:06AM
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RoofDaRoofieDogg
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Mar 4 2011 12:21AM
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Schlop
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Remove the sign and claim you had no knowledge
A. of the legal issues with urban and
B. that the sign was ever there (don't even mention until DIDN'T YOU SEE THE SIGN)
Mar 4 2011 12:26AM
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WorthDaMoney
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especially something like this

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Mar 4 2011 12:32AM
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Hamster.
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money?
Mar 4 2011 12:33AM
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Schlop
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your username is very fitting to the subject at hand
Mar 4 2011 12:35AM
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WorthDaMoney
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its fucking long. like around +100ft
Mar 4 2011 12:36AM
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Dan.P
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Its only $55 dollars if you get caught
Mar 4 2011 12:37AM
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WorthDaMoney
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split between the 3 people there, or per person?
Mar 4 2011 12:39AM
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skier_boy26
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Probably not worth your time. Super flat and long, and unless there is a big ass hill or room for a tow-in, it'll be a bust.


And they could still tag you for vandalism, or depending where it is, trespassing.
Mar 4 2011 12:41AM
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DripDrop
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This is all assuming you get caught...

Go for it, if you do get caught the sign didn't say skiing, it only said wheeled "vehicles"
Mar 4 2011 12:42AM
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WorthDaMoney
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its not that flat. i could see getting on with barely any speed, and by the end, having a shitload

and its outside a bus station
Mar 4 2011 12:43AM
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cool_name
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its only illegal to get caught
Mar 4 2011 1:04AM
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Obey.
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Bet you bitches cant even do that rail.
Mar 4 2011 1:08AM
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skithedirt
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you posted this on a skiing website, you wanting for 20-30 people to say yes, of course we're gonna say yes!

do it
Mar 4 2011 1:08AM
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WorthDaMoney
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i just wanted to know if it was illegal or not because of the sign that says no skateboarding or biking. now its just a hype thread i guess..

and to the guy that says we wont do it, if we get to hit it, ill be completed
Mar 4 2011 1:11AM
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alexg1687
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You and I live in liberal democracies. We have unlimited freedom except as stated under the law. If you want an english translation of that: Its up to the government to make clear the activities that are illegal. That's very different to ignorance of the law though, which is still no excuse. Eg. If its stated in law that you cannot destroy public property you can't claim you didn't know about it. Leaving the destruction of public property thing aside, your question is about that specific sign. If it says no skateboarding or rollerblading or whatever and you want to ski on it then ceratus paribus there's nothing illegal about that. They can try to charge you but if you have a photo of the sign to show the cops trying to charge you then they'll realise the technicality. Just don't be a dick to them because then they'll get you for something else like littering or disturbing the peace, which they wouldn't have done otherwise. The logical outcome if you get caught is that they'll say don't do it again, they won't charge you, but within 2 weeks there will be signs there saying no skiing or something like "no action sports that make use of handrails" to help them cover all angles. Hope this helped.
Mar 4 2011 1:23AM
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WorthDaMoney
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THATS what i was looking for. thanks a lot! +K
Mar 4 2011 1:30AM
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SeanTom
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sooo, shots within the week?
Mar 4 2011 1:43AM
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WorthDaMoney
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pressures on. it might have to be filmed with a gopro, so lets hope there is enough light
Mar 4 2011 1:49AM
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SeanTom
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awww yea. at least get some photos.
Mar 4 2011 1:51AM
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Broken_Rides
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North York?
Mar 4 2011 1:59AM
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youRsmellA
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Having been to court many times fighting fines for various things:

1) If a cop wants to cite you he won't care what you are riding.

2) If you fight the fine the judge has a lot of leeway to 'judge' you. IMO you will not get off on a ski vs. skate technicality. Judges are bigger pricks than cops and basically just do what they want. They judge your attitude in court just as much as your legal case, especially for small things.

3) If you fight the fine you may pay $55 but the city will spend over $100 fighting you.

4) There are no certainties in the legal system, there is always at least a small chance you get a cool cop/prosecutor/judge that lets you off.

4) Hit that shit anyways cause it looks sick and you should listen to more N.W.A.
Mar 4 2011 2:25AM
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WorthDaMoney
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would telling my friend "fuck the police cause im a teenager, with a little bit of gold and a pager" makes the situation better or worse?
Mar 4 2011 7:03AM
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yeahno
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pay up 55 is nada
Mar 4 2011 7:25AM
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undercover_skier
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I'll say like my dad says to me
'' Do what you want but don't get caught''
and
'' if you have a problem, fix it, I don't want to know about it''
Mar 4 2011 7:52AM
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Broseph_Stalin
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do it, bring 55 dollars, and a gopro
Mar 4 2011 8:14AM
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TMiller
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That rail looks sick
Mar 4 2011 8:32AM
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WorthDaMoney
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whatever we get by tonight will be posted here
Mar 4 2011 8:34AM
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mad.twatter
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Well dayum, that's a mightay fine rail mr.
Mar 4 2011 8:50AM
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Bumblesteeze
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Like your username says it's "worthdamoney".
Mar 4 2011 9:25AM
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Trojan~Man
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hey man where is this?
Mar 4 2011 9:34AM
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justinstlaurent
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to the right of the smyth/main street bridge, at the lycee clodel? bus station. on riverside
Mar 4 2011 9:41AM
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Trojan~Man
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ahhh gotcha! thanks
Mar 4 2011 9:43AM
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nskerb
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if ur filming got a nice shot of the sign in the sid eof the screen shot thatd be tight
Mar 4 2011 10:18AM
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Double-U
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Its easier to ask for forgivness then for permission.
Mar 4 2011 10:35AM
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SKIU4EA
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Fine THEM for interupting your sesh. 
Mar 4 2011 10:35AM
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bluegavin269
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hahaha
Mar 4 2011 10:38AM
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Ukrainian-Vibe
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They'll fine you for trespassing... even though the sign doesn't say it they'l find a way
Mar 4 2011 10:52AM
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nCrow
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theyll fine
Mar 4 2011 10:56AM
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Balto
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dont be a bitch and just hit it, the sign says nothing about skiing, if you get caught and they try to fine you, sue their asses
Mar 4 2011 2:32PM
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EmperorKuzco
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the sign says no biking or skateboarding and your doing neither of those things soo....
Mar 4 2011 2:36PM
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WorthDaMoney
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did you not read the thread ? i said in the thread description that i just want to know whether or not they can fine me, but ill hit it anyways. dont be a bitch
Mar 4 2011 3:18PM
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TNORTS
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If it says no skating then you should be good. Govevrnment cant do anything to you in ex post factum laws. If they get mad at you, they cant legally change the law of the fine to apply to skiing so they can punish you. But they can make a law that will apply to any future offenses.

Spark nots: you wont get introuble, hit it
Mar 4 2011 3:42PM
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Hamster.
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never heard of spark nots
Mar 4 2011 9:32PM
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LAME.
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This thread is monkey ballz

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Mar 4 2011 9:48PM
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LAME.
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This thread is monkey ballz

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Mar 4 2011 9:48PM
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