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720 (spinning) advice with video

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SkierPT
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Okay I know I know post in trick tip forum. But I've recently been trying some 7s of 30ish feet jumps. I can do 540s pretty easily now without grabs...don't really have to throw the spin too hard. When  I seven though I need to throw it a little harder..duhh..but it's throwing me off axis a bit. I'm really not bringing up my knees at all yet. Heres a POV vid....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buV3BhbumtQ

Any tips? On a trampoline I have this problem too if I throw too hard. Thanks.
Feb 8 2011 4:46PM
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monkatizer
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Feb 8 2011 4:49PM
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BITS
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keep your head turned.

when you 540, you spot your landing at 360 and pull your feet around. at 720 you got the keep looking until you see your landing.
Feb 8 2011 4:49PM
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monkatizer
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sorry fordouble post, but try to keep ur legs tense as ur going thru the spin b/c it seemed like they flew apart at the end,

and if ur prob is that ur going off axis: usually when learning a new spin u throw it hard, so try to keep ur head as u normally would for a five, people tend to look down or up while spining fast on a new trick, that might set u off axis so just remember to keep ur head level, dont look down or up

hope that helps!

Feb 8 2011 4:53PM
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SkierPT
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It seems so outa control for some reason...like I don't know when I am until I hit the ground....when I 5 im chill and seem in control. Just keep looking?
Feb 8 2011 4:54PM
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SkierPT
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Haha it's all good thanks. Hopefully I'll have a vid up soon of me stomping some
Feb 8 2011 4:55PM
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BITS
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thats because 540 is a rotation where you already spot your landing around 270, so you have a lot of time to prepare for the landing.

But when spinning past 540 you cant just shifty around your legs 360 haha, so you need to keep looking around until you spot your landing around 630 and stomp the 720. :)

did that make any sense?
Feb 8 2011 4:57PM
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SkierPT
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In a way lol. But yeah seems like the 7 is a stepping stone trick for spinning anyways...after i land a few 7s seems like a 9 would be ohhh so near
Feb 8 2011 5:02PM
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BITS
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exactly... its always harder to learn full rotation spins because you do not have that much time to spot the landing.
Feb 8 2011 5:04PM
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SkierPT
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Thanks bro +k
Feb 8 2011 5:05PM
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BITS
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no problem :) good luck, go out and stomp it!
Feb 8 2011 5:06PM
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Elmo.
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u gave some really good advice. k++ for helping a kid out. and when i try sevens im gunna use this too. since i just got 5's and i want to go fro 7's
Feb 8 2011 6:17PM
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BITS
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thanks :)
Feb 9 2011 2:12AM
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panda.beaw
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Succesful thread is succesful :) i will use this as well
Feb 9 2011 10:10AM
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SkierPT
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Haha lets see some first time stomped vids every body
Feb 9 2011 4:11PM
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A.Eberhard
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After 7's... 9's get pretty easy. It seems that you open up as you start your spin just judging by the wide position of your feet. Really try to spin with your abs or core of your body. Then just suck up those knees and keep looking over the shoulder, it's pretty blind for a 7 off a jump that size. You are probably going to barely see the landing, but just keep going and stomp it.
Feb 9 2011 5:16PM
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danjrowan
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sweet advise guys,
when I get some boots that fit me, its on!
and the video looks good man, youve almost got it, youll have it stomped in no time

Feb 9 2011 5:38PM
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wootang
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And finally....

Whenever I come apart on a spin it is almost always that I started spinning before the pop, or with skis still on the snow. Almost every time I try bigger spins than I am comfortable with (which is not much) I start to swivel my shoulders/hips before popping. What happens is that right when I get to about 540 my legs come apart and it gets ugly.

I find that if I:

1. Focus on Pop, and only pop until im off the lip.
2. Make sure I start the spin with my hips, not upper body.

I tend to get it right.


Feb 9 2011 6:11PM
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FoxtrotSport
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Damn, even just watching someone spin right POV is awkward as shit. I'll keep spinning left thanks
Feb 9 2011 6:54PM
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j.benziger
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agreed i will almost never spin right unless it is in a comp or something
Feb 24 2011 9:41AM
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mrmarks
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the key to ANY good trick is a good takeoff.  i can tell by the way you land that you are spinning so hard/early that you are taking off off of one foot heavy.  focus on a balanced two-footed takeoff, like you prob. do no sweat on your 5s, and you'll be more balanced in the air. 
Feb 24 2011 9:49AM
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hurrisun
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just keep doing them till they work i bailed the same way learning them but if u keep trin ur mind and body will sort it out
Feb 24 2011 10:52AM
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HalfandHalf
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try to keep your legs tucked up a little bit, just so your not a pencil in the air. Then you can go for the grab.
Feb 24 2011 11:00AM
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Slowbro
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remember to look straight ahead of you in the air before you start to spin, because it seems like you were setting a little early
Feb 24 2011 11:15AM
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aznenemy
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Try it on a smaller jump.  I did my first 720 on a 10 footer (length wise), and it was on the same day i learned 540's.  Here is a video of my friends 720 on the same jump, i couldn't get mine because i was filming.  As well i put my friends 540 fail, its just funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ahdmiRCEY

And if anyone is wondering why he doesn't have poles, its because he snapped them the last run.
Feb 24 2011 11:48AM
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tuomas-p
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http://www.skifilm.com/tv.php?id=326&channel=18
Feb 24 2011 12:57PM
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nine50seven
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i am working on my 7s but to me it looks like ur throwing way to hard and ur fighting for the last 180
Jan 25 2012 8:04PM
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Julian.F
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this. i can hardly watch
Jan 25 2012 8:26PM
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SKIU4EA
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lol... it's been close to a year.  I'm pretty sure his pencil 7 days are over and he's well on his way to other tricks.
Jan 25 2012 9:05PM
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NotGhood
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for my first 7 i popped and hucked like i was getting paid for it then i saw my landing and stomped it by some miracle
idk waht to tell ya but practice makes perfect
Jan 25 2012 9:08PM
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SkierPT
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Progressions slow this year due to a late winter..not doing bigger spins before I get 360s with multiple grabs down solid
Jan 26 2012 2:00PM
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MaddiesPooHole
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That must be the way to do it, sounds like my 1st 7 lol.

Tried it off a jump that was probs too small for a 7, but just hucked and spun like a mo'fo and it came round - all about the confidence and the practice.

I've taken a lot of the advice from this thread on board though, was good.
Jan 26 2012 2:44PM
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