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i couldn't agree more. darren helm too. that's what makes them so good. it's not that their best players are better than everyone elses, it's that their worst players are so fucking sick. they don't necessarily pile up the points, but if you watch these guys forecheck or play the pk, they do exactly what they need to, which is prevent pucks from going into your net and buying time for your stars to get their breath back and get out again. they seem to all perform their roll extremely well
and then of course there's nick lidstrom, who's probably the second greatest defenseman ever to play the game, and in his 19th season he's STILL killing it