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Twin Tip v Shaped

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A_Dyno_5
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All I'm wondering is if it is possible to do tricks on shaped skis in the terrain park or off natural jumps and shit like that? I mean I have never skied with Twin Tip and can tell that they are obviously a lot lighter than shaped skis are. And I know many of you have told me already to sell my shaped skis that I purchased 2 seasons back and buy a pair of twin tips. Any suggestions?
Dec 23 2010 3:08PM
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.Max.
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What are you talking about?
Dec 23 2010 3:14PM
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KAS
Posts: 1417 - Karma: 68
They won't do well on rails or even work, and you can't ski switch well or at all either. I've never tried it so idk exactly what's up but twin tips are basically essential for the park.

I'm assuming having non twin tipped skis would be very hard to ride the park
Dec 23 2010 3:14PM
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alpineplease
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used to shred the park on race skis back in the day. my buddy hit the american flag rail at summit on his way down to his junior olympic qualifier run. yes, you can. and all park skis are shaped.
Dec 23 2010 3:16PM
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SupaHotFire
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Just find a cheap pair on here in the Sell/Trade forum, or on craigslist or something. If you rocked the park on shaped skis you would not only be limited to what you can try but you would look like a tool.
Dec 23 2010 3:17PM
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A_Dyno_5
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I thought I was pretty clear but I guess not. I'm an intermediate skier. I ski with shaped skies, being from North Eastern PA there isn't much back country up here. I would like to start trying jumps and little rails at my near by mtn. I'd like to know if it is possible to do tricks, with shaped skis, rather than buyin a whole new pair of twin tip all mountain skis. I mean eventually I'm going to buy them, and know they help a lot with the pop when you are jumping.
Dec 23 2010 3:18PM
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TheHuggyBear
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Ive hit rails and rode switch on shitty directionals, its not impossible but its really hard.
If you plan on getting into rails and jumps and become part of the freestyle scene I would advise purchasing twin tips. Try going into "Gear Talk" and post a thread saying..

"Hello, I am new to the freestyle scene and I am looking for some twin tip skis. I am (height), I weigh about (weight), I plan on skiing (rails, jumps, backcountry), and I live (location)."

there will be plenty of people who will be more than happy to help you out and choose a good ski for your preferred style.
Dec 23 2010 3:19PM
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snowaddict91
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don't do it. your shaped skis don't have the same construction as park skis and they will crack/break after you hit a rail 2 or 3 times.
Dec 23 2010 3:20PM
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A_Dyno_5
Posts: 6 - Karma: 0
Thank you for the suggestions!
Dec 23 2010 3:21PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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Twin tip skis are shaped skis.

They do not make anything easier other than skiing switch.

Anything you can do on twin tips you can do on flat skis.

There are both light and heavy twin tips, as there are both light and heave flat skis.

Twin tips do not make it easier to pop.
Dec 23 2010 3:22PM
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Where-am-I
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i dunno his location says scranton penn, that sounds trollish. on the other hand he made a comment about there being "little backcountry" in penn, which sounds like honest gaper dialog
Dec 23 2010 3:24PM
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KAS
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How about, presses? nollies? spinning?

I'm pretty sure all park oriented skis are made differently than Atomic race skis.
Dec 23 2010 3:31PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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I don't think someone asking about switching to twin tips will be doing presses or nollies... and spinning isn't any harder on atomic race skis...having a center mounted twin will help but its not that big of a deal...
Dec 23 2010 3:34PM
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terror.bear
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Gtfo. Buy twin tips.
Dec 23 2010 7:15PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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You'll be able to spin and do rails/boxes on shaped skis. The only reason you might want twin tips is because you can ski switch (backwards), spin faster and easier because of their symmetrical nature, and they are usually more durable making them a better choice on rails/boxes.
Dec 23 2010 7:33PM
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wasatch_rat
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i learned to ski switch on atomic gs skis. so you can do it, but it sorta sucks. get a pair of nice new park skis, they'll still carve really well (they have a parabolic shape too, twintip and shaped are by no means mutually exclusive), but they will be more center mounted, giving you better balance on rails, easier switch turns and takeoffs.

bottom line, if you want to get serious in the park, get park skis. they'll still rip up everything hardpack and some moguls as an added bonus.
Dec 23 2010 7:40PM
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KAS
Posts: 1417 - Karma: 68
Him being a beginner wasn't the point, and park skis have less weight in the tips so it's easier to spin and the center (or at least near center) mount helps.
Dec 23 2010 8:24PM
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Mr.LemonPie
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He asked if it was a big deal for HIM. Therefore, it is important that he is a beginner.
Dec 23 2010 9:11PM
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nickyp
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It will be more difficult.

Before I got skis, I skied both pipe and metal on race carves for a while. It really is quite a lot harder. You have to compensate for the huge swing weight, and the thinner waist, not to mention the stiffness and different base materials.
Dec 23 2010 9:17PM
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A_Dyno_5
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Yeah im beginner in park//pipe not skiing in general...I mean I'd like to do some spins and tear some rails up but I don't expect to do anything TOO TOO big until I move out west in a few years. I mean from what I've been told (i've posted this thread twice and never got a straight answer thats why im postin it again) basically what I've learned is that twin tip are made differently then shaped racing skis. Therefore I figured that I would get more "pop" out of twin tip skis which is sometimes (depending on what ski's i'd buy) most of the time because of the wood core. Therefore being much lighter than racing skis...

but no need to get hostile guys...i'll take everybody's opinion differently...
Dec 23 2010 10:11PM
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Giulio
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I'm a tele skier, and whenever I get onto a pair of alpine skis, no matter weather or not they are twin tips, they are super easy to ski switch on. My point is that the key to doing anything on skis is just believing you can do it. Don't listen to these guy how tell you to pick you gear based upon how steezy it is. Don't let anyone tell you you need twin tips.

BTW: It's way steezier to stomp rails on a pair of racing skis than a pair of twin tips. It just make onlookers feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Don't sell your skis if you like how they ride.

Disclaimer: I ride twin tips.
Dec 23 2010 10:31PM
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alexg1687
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you dont really want to do tricks on them. theyre a lot heavier and things can go wrong quickly. twin tips are much better for the park.

BUT........

thats not to say that race skis cant get siiiiiiiiick air. check out a friend of mine winning the world cup skiercross the other day and check out the skis they all use. no twinnies here...

http://fisplayer.infrontams.tv/freestyle/?id=304

I've raced on world cup skier cross courses and some slightly smaller ones and i can tell you its a huuuuuuuuge rush. and when you're going that fast you want stability.
Dec 24 2010 8:23AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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Dec 24 2010 4:04PM
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A_Dyno_5
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Yo man...get that shit outta here. There's no need for that. What the fuck is everybody's deal...All I wanted was a little advice. Grow up!
Dec 24 2010 4:28PM
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Caleb.E
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lol....
Dec 24 2010 10:06PM
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Gstrong
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welcome to newschoolers!
Dec 24 2010 10:23PM
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Slinger1x1
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you can press on directional skis... you can even spin, just dont land switch.

yes. park skis are made very different than atomic race skis. atomic race skis have metal plates and are stiff as fuck and have insane turning radii.

but lets take the volkl mantra for an example. it is directional (not a twin tip) yet it is very similarly built to a twin tip ski
Dec 24 2010 10:32PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Don't forget, the Atomic race bases might be the best in the world for racing, but don't go hopping on rails with them either!
Dec 25 2010 1:01AM
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ShredAZ
Posts: 1054 - Karma: 641

Mounting location?

Park oriented twins are constructed for dead center or at least near center mounting. Traditional apline flat skis are made for mounting further in the rear.

Center mounting gives more balance on rails/boxes and more control in the air which will make learning park so much more enjoyable.

Dec 25 2010 1:32AM
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