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White Balance Problems.

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Downtofilm
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Hey guys, Im having problems setting my white balance and Gain.
I always get my white balance on a white card but it always seems to get a little to orange for me, And with my gain if I have at 0db will it be grainy cause on my lcd and my view finder I see no grain but when I am capturing in Fcp there is grain?
Thanks, sorry for the nub questions
Dec 6 2010 7:28PM
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icantskiiFILM
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what camera are you using? if your using a somewhat nice camera then just set white balance using Kelvin. the lower the number the bluer it is. if thats not an option just look at the lighting...if its sunny. use sunny. if your indoors and there are incandesant bulbs...thns et it to incandescant. its not that hard breh.
Dec 6 2010 7:42PM
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horner
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Other way around, blue is on the high end of the scale.

What camera do you shoot with?


Dec 6 2010 8:03PM
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icantskiiFILM
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nikon D80...wtf? at 2700 or whatever the lowest is its super blue. what are u talking about?

think about it. the lower the number..the colder it is. making it blue. warm colors are reds and oranges making it have a much higher temperature. making it have more kelvin
Dec 6 2010 8:20PM
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horner
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What are YOU talking about?

DTF, what camera are you shooting with?
Dec 6 2010 9:25PM
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icantskiiFILM
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your camera is backwards dude.
Dec 6 2010 9:28PM
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michelle
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Dec 6 2010 9:38PM
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horner
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I shoot with a GL2, super sweet cam. The kelvin scaling temperature gauge exposure system lightometer is most definitely correct.
Dec 6 2010 9:38PM
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MANDER
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I shoot on a 7d (same as one of horners I believe?) and the lower the kelvan the bluer it is.
Dec 6 2010 9:38PM
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Downtofilm
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fuck man im confused
Dec 6 2010 10:05PM
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jca
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this
Dec 6 2010 10:12PM
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MANDER
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I literally just picked up my 7d and checked. I cant vouch for other cameras but mine has 2500 being very blue and 10000 being super red.
Dec 6 2010 10:18PM
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eheath
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You guys are idiots, if you white balance for warm, outside temps (5600k) and then go inside, its blue, because the white balance temp is 5600k. Same shit happens if you white balance inside, then you're at inside temps (3200k) and so you go outside and your whites are orange. Obviously if you're inside and set your white balance for outside temps, its going to be red and if you set your white balance outside for inside temps, its going to be red. 2500(which btw is much lower than inside temps) inside will look blue because its set for red whites and 10000 (which is much,much higher than outside temps) will look red because its set for blue whites Get it? the picture michelle posted is correct, but its not going to show up like that on your camera. don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.
Dec 6 2010 10:27PM
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horner
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It all has to do with the type of light you are shooting under and how your camera perceives that light. So when you are dialing in your color temp, it is based off the temperature of the light you are shooting under. Sort of like a sliding scale.

Say I have a Tungsten bulb which has a color temp of 3.2k. I dial in my camera to 3200K. The light should look natural on camera, as your eyes see it.

I then walk outdoors into cloudless, mid day light. My WB is suddenly much warmer. That is because the color temp of 3200k is WARMER than natural daylight. Daylight is a COOLER light that comes in around 5500k. Make sense?

The camera works around the light, the light doesn't work around the camera.






Dec 6 2010 10:59PM
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icantskiiFILM
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i understand now. i appologize for my uneducated responses
Dec 6 2010 11:05PM
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horner
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It's tricky to wrap your head around, the logic seems a bit backwards at times.
Dec 6 2010 11:09PM
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Downtofilm
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oh so thats why the last night while shooting urban my light would not go to the right colour and i was flipping out. lol, thanks bro.
Dec 6 2010 11:52PM
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