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East coast vs West coast

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nlamx
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Yes the western US has big open resorts with good snow, and they are producing some good talent, and the east, with ice landings, almost all man made snow, not nearly as progressive parks.

Although west has the fame, anybody notice that most of the future talent that we know of are coming from the east coast.

For instance fromt he east we have:

Tom Wallisch (Pennsylvania)
Phil Casabon (Quebec)
JF Houle (Quebe)
JP Auclair (Quebec)
Dale Talkington (Vermont)
Clayton Vila (New Hampshire)
Sean Jordan (New Hampshire)
Nick Martini (New Hampshire)
And more

I know there are many talented young skiiers from the west too, but when you look at the setup and conditions in the east these guys made the best of it and look at where they are now.

Leave your opinions.
Dec 4 2010 3:47PM
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danbrown
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that list isn't even right
Dec 4 2010 3:50PM
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3-6-steeze
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People from the east are dedicated, same with people from the west, but east coast skiers work pretty hard usually
Dec 4 2010 3:51PM
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nlamx
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What is wrong about the list, I'm not saying im right, i just want to know
Dec 4 2010 3:52PM
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cwillygood
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Simon Dumont is from Sunday river i think
Dec 4 2010 3:55PM
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nlamx
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Yup, sorry forgot to add him
Dec 4 2010 3:56PM
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3-6-steeze
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Yeah
Dec 4 2010 3:56PM
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Masties
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sean jordan is from pa
Dec 4 2010 4:05PM
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muFFn
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Is it less about location and more about how how they, as in professionals from the east, stand out from other skiers in their locations?
Dec 4 2010 4:06PM
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jamodeo
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Vila is from Rhode Island there's also brogan from PA
Dec 4 2010 4:08PM
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nlamx
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????dont understand what you are saying muFFn
Dec 4 2010 4:09PM
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nlamx
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Ik I'm from the same place vila is, but there is no where in RI to ski, especially the island he lives on, so i put NH cause he went to waterville
Dec 4 2010 4:10PM
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rewand0
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Was wallisch good untill he moved to utah?
Dec 4 2010 4:11PM
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.frenchy
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Compton, Wesson, Parry also are from the east.
Dec 4 2010 4:16PM
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nlamx
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yup forgot them too
Dec 4 2010 4:17PM
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Craig114
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Its all about the MIDWEST!!!!!!! MINNESOTA!!!!!!!!
Dec 4 2010 4:18PM
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hoodratz47
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west we go bigger.
Dec 4 2010 4:19PM
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muFFn
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Well I grew up in upstate New York. No one was good at the local park with the exception of 2 or 3 people. Not bragging, but I was one of the 3 people there who could actually hit the lone 30 foot table. At that time I was in 5th grade, around 11 years old. I could do grabs and daffies.

I know live in Steamboat, Colorado. I now see over 20 eleven year olds that can do 540's and hit 60 foot tables. However, back east where I used to ski, no one is doing 540's or doing 60 foot tables at age 11.

So if you look at Steamboat, with dozens of kids doing amazing tricks for there age, what's the chance that a kid will get "sponsored" for their skills over the 20 other kids who can do the same tricks? But, what's the chance a kid growing up in a place where there is little competition could get sponsored for his skills?

I'm not saying the pros from the east actually suck, but rather they had a higher chance to go places. And with that opportunity, they were able to progress and become some of the world's best.

Just my 2 cents.
Dec 4 2010 4:20PM
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chardi
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all those young kids who currently live on the east, only live their because they are still in high school. by the time they are 18 they will all be on the west. and all the pros from the east who currently live on the west did the exact same thing. just an obvious observantion
Dec 4 2010 4:21PM
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thebeesknees
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eheath hates you
Dec 4 2010 4:22PM
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RudyGarmisch
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The East Coast produces better skiers because its a better place to ski. Deeper lighter pow, gnarly gnarly terrain, hear they build super big booters too because they get so much snowfall. They dont even have lift lines really, except on some holiday weekends, and I've heard of them giving out free hot chocolates at the top of some runs.

Yup, the east coast would be the way to go if you want to get some good skiing in. I'd move out there from here in the PNW if I had the cash, anyone who's in a similar situation should pack up and go.
Dec 4 2010 4:28PM
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nlamx
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Deeper Lighter Powder in the East...? the snow in the east is so wet and heavy dude....
Dec 4 2010 4:29PM
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muFFn
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I lol'd.
Dec 4 2010 4:31PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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It's true, NJ has some of the best snow on the planet. It's so light that sometimes it rises from the ground into the air by itself.
Dec 4 2010 4:35PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Dude, no joke, I heard from one of my friends that in his words "Every resort has blower snow, like every single run."
Dec 4 2010 4:36PM
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nlamx
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yea it is almost all man made snow. rarely do we get deep and DRY pow, whenever we get snow its wet and heavy. Thats why its called east coast cement
Dec 4 2010 4:40PM
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.frenchy
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Depends where you ski
Dec 4 2010 4:42PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Are you calling my friend a liar?
Dec 4 2010 4:47PM
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nlamx
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Yea honestly i dont know about NJ snow but i know NH,VT,ME snow is wet and rarely dry and light. The fact that NJ is south of them and has lots of moisture from coast would lead me to think it is even more wet and heavy, but you seem to know what you are talkign about....

Also, I do have to say the Midwest, and Minnesota especially is producing so many good skiiers.

Spencer Milbocker
Mike Hornbeck
Tyler Barnes

Off of snow and back too topic though please.
Dec 4 2010 4:49PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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oh boy... your sarcasm meter is broken. haha i was kidding, if we get snow it's practically rain, then it all freezes at night.
Dec 4 2010 4:55PM
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nlamx
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Ok i was like is this kid serious
Dec 4 2010 4:56PM
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muFFn
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I have a hard time believing it's just the east that makes the skier.
Dec 4 2010 4:58PM
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Alp1ne
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lol look where all the good backountry skiers are from.
Dec 4 2010 5:00PM
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Drail
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who cares who makes better skiers.... we all end up in the west eventually anyways.
Dec 4 2010 5:04PM
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no_steeze
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so can i nominate him for golden wheelchair?
Dec 4 2010 5:07PM
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hoodratz47
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preach man...  all we get is some wet sloppy snow. and a park with one 15 foot booter with a crater in the landing.......  i wish i could move east and ski real powder!!!!!
Dec 4 2010 5:17PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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got my vote
Dec 4 2010 5:43PM
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Milksteak
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Yes please...
Dec 4 2010 5:55PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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have you all forgotten about colby james west? he is a granite stater as well
Dec 4 2010 5:56PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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trust me i love skiing in the east where i live, but every time i go out west its definitly better. around where i live we get 60 inches max per year.

but we find ourselves stoked off of comparably not stokable conditions becuase we are used to such shit conditions alot of the time. it definitly helps me appreciate sking real mountains with real snow and real clifts
Dec 4 2010 6:02PM
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nlamx
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word
Dec 4 2010 6:50PM
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DutchhGutss
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there is no comparison?
Dec 4 2010 7:14PM
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JustDidIt
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Plus the East Coast's ski season is so much longer. Late December to late March/early April makes the East Coast one of the most desirable ski destinations in the world.
Dec 4 2010 7:22PM
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Emma_Watson
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EASTCOAST.
Dec 4 2010 7:24PM
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no_steeze
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i cant wait until i live out west so i can hate on all the kids skiing in the east who have no control over where they live
Dec 4 2010 7:25PM
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Lwaghorn
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well no doubt west cost is more fun and better imo. but it seems that on east coast you have to be dedicated to ski cause its on ice. and if you fall, its on ice. also when east coast skiers get to go out west. they go big because they are so stoked. but in the end im still chillin in the maritimes waiting to see snow for the first time this season
Dec 4 2010 7:29PM
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GayWolf420
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Pretty stupid and ignorant thread. You can't "claim" an area is better just because of the skiers its produced. Terrain also plays a big role, too. So in this case if your debating which place is better terrain wise, Obviously its the West.
Dec 4 2010 7:30PM
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*TURBONERD*
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Dec 4 2010 7:38PM
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dan4060
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That list is a joke.

The east coast might produce better park skiers, but the west coast produces better skiers.

Sage
Daron Rahlves
Seth Morrison
Shane McConkey
CR Johnson
Tanner Hall
Dana Flahr
Mark Abma
Sean Petit
Callum Petit
Eric Hjorleifson
Cody Townsend
Eric Pollard
Pep Fujas
Chris Benchetler
Sammy Carlson
Jonny Moseley
Chris Rubens
Riley Leboe
Josh Bibby(think he's BC)
TJ Schiller

That list is just the tip of the iceberg.  I could go on and on.  The people who can really ski tend to be from the west, not the east.

The list you gave is a bunch of park rats.  I really could care less about them.  Look at the powder list from last year of the best young skiers, most of them are from the west.

As far as up and comers....Sean Petit DESTROYS anyone on your list.  Tom Wallisch is nothing compared to Petit. 

The east coast produces park rats, the west produces more of the great skiers.  The guys who can  rip up a mountain tend to come from the west.
Dec 4 2010 8:16PM
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kootenayklaus
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There is a reason why this is, and it's because the east barely has 1-2 "big" mountain spots, if any. Of course the west is going to produce better skiers like that, it only takes the mere use of your brain to figure that one out.
Dec 4 2010 8:23PM
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dan4060
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I could go on forever with the west coast guys

Kent Kreitler
Reggie Crist
Zach Crist
Jeremy Nobis
Dash Longe
Dylan Hood
Eric Roner
Rory Bushfield

Look at the guys who are being flown around in Helis by MSP and TGR.  They are generally west coasters. 

The east does produce some great skiers, but more of the guys who can really ski are from the west.  If you want to be a park rat, stay in the east, if you want to rip the mountain, move west.  The guys who get good ALL move west, even if they grew up in the east.  But the idea that the east coast is producing the best skiers is just stupid.

I could go on and on with my west list, but who cares.  It should be obvious to everyone where the real mountain rippers are from

From the OP's list, the only guy I would even want to watch is JP Auclair.
Dec 4 2010 8:26PM
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