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What Car Should I Buy?

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Trollolo
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Alright so I have $10k - 20k to spend on a car. 20k is the max, with taxes. Needs to be rwd or awd (this is not for skiing), and built after 2000. Here is what I'm considering:

Honda S2000:

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Nissan 350Z

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Evo 7 (kind a pain in the ass to import to Canada, but on the plus their extremely rare)

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Subaru STI

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Honda s2000 feels like a girls car to me, so I dunno. 350Z is sick, I love hatch backs and nissans. Evo is practical but not really a head turner. I've always liked STI's but I feel like people beat the shit out of them. Would be a sick all year round car though, and holds its value. I dunno what to do. What do you guys think.

Nov 25 2010 5:54PM
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charmander
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dude dont be a puss

new corvette

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Nov 25 2010 9:23PM
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swalls
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Agreed comes stock with BBS and recaro seats, so nice!
Nov 25 2010 9:31PM
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Notorious_LMP
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Audi Allroad! haha love mine and a BEAST in the snow....especially with studs in it.
Nov 25 2010 9:47PM
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XtRemE11
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ive driven multiple sti's from stock to one with 8k in the engine and 6k in suspension. stock they just push like fucking crazy, its a pretty well known fact that sti's and wrx's have a pretty big understeer problem. even the modded one i drove pushed, not quite as bad, the only way to fix it was to be super agressive with your brake release. handling wise id even take a stock evo over the modded sti i drove, its just a much better balanced car. and in snow, the sti basicaly pushed to the apex then went to oversteer right about at track out, only way to fix that was with the e brake or really flicking the car hard. the evo would hold a nice constant rotation from turn in to track out, and it was very easy to make adjustments mid corner.

honestly theres nothing i liked about the sti more than the evo. just look at european rally, the evo is the platform to have for amateur rally, i forgot the stats i heard but i think the evo's outnumbered imprezas in general by a a longshot. STI's just have this "rally car" reputation here that they have gotten from people who dont know shit about how to drive. that being said i drove an evo 10 and i fucking hated it.
Nov 25 2010 10:33PM
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XtRemE11
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s4's pretty much are freak accident cars. i know of alot of people who own or have owned them and they just plain are not reliable one of my friends friends put something like 11 grand just into reapairs over like two years. they are good cars to drive, just not to own.
Nov 25 2010 10:37PM
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Dylan_
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yeah, that's the point i was getting too. People walking around in their ken block shirts thinking they know everything because they've seen youtube videos.


So my advice to the OP go test drive multiple cars, see what you prefer. You may like an Evo over STI or opposite, or maybe you want a 350z. Test drive all your options first
Nov 25 2010 10:41PM
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c.davis
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I didnt take the time to read all of the posts in this thread just the title.. but if you need an all wheel drive car thats good in snow I would recommend a jeep.
I drive a 2006 Jeep Commander and I love it. It is great in the winter on snow and also rides awesome in the summer letting a lot of sunlight in from the 3 sunroofs. It was my first car and I love it. It was about 17,000.
Good luck with your search
Nov 25 2010 11:03PM
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0123456789
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my three votes
Nov 26 2010 2:52AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Get a Gremlin.
Nov 26 2010 2:55AM
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--ski--
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Are you kidding me?

r33 or r34. Its a no brainer.

Nov 26 2010 2:56AM
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-ROY-
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fuck that thing is sexy.
Nov 26 2010 8:39AM
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johnnypsunami
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Volkswagen GTI
Nov 26 2010 11:38AM
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XtRemE11
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im not much of an american car fan, but z06's are legit as fuck
Nov 26 2010 1:54PM
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585.
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sti becuase you can use it all year round and can perform with some top notch cars rain or shine.
Nov 26 2010 4:10PM
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Chompo.
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Audi s4 BMW m3 or a Saab turbo x
Nov 26 2010 4:20PM
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Newschooled
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STI.
Nov 26 2010 4:31PM
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idskithat
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mazda rx8, you can get them cheap then put a turbo kit in and make it kick aaaaasssss
Nov 26 2010 4:36PM
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BROSEIDON
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R32
Nov 26 2010 5:00PM
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connory998
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can you even import an evo 7 into Canada? I've never looked into it but i remember reading something about them not passing the bumper test.(~8kmh collision and has to be no damage, but the FMIC got fucked up)
Nov 26 2010 5:25PM
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the_moderaper
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I feel like 350zs are cool but will get old fast.
The s2000 isn't my taste.
The subie, this is newschoolers, nuff said.
The nissan, I like that most. Rare and respected.
Nov 26 2010 5:36PM
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XtRemE11
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RWD>AWD if you plan on ever driving in the summer, and its still awesome in the winter.
Nov 27 2010 5:40PM
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grown-ninja
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have fun paying to fix an s4

Nov 27 2010 5:46PM
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PowSkierCO
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Go with the Evo. As far as holding value, it will be the S2000. The STI is so played. You will be like every other fag on the streets. If you want something to really rally the snow, get a truck. I love my new F-150. So sick
Nov 27 2010 6:36PM
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XtRemE11
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trucks are more for plowing through stuff. for "rallying" in the snow cars are the only way to go. both are fun as hell though.


and to the OP like somebody said above, look at rx8's they are one of my favorite cars. they drive so well and are extremely well balanced.
Nov 27 2010 6:51PM
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Luc.
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hmmmm....

i can really only comment on the sti vs evo conversation...

i personally drive a subaru, which will eventually be an sti after i do suspension, engine/tranny, etc etc...but thats neither there or anywhere.

back from tangent...what do u want out of the car? from stock, the evo will handle better on the road all day over the sti, but the sti will be much better on loose gravel, snow, etc...basically anything other than ur typical paved road.

keep in mind, and people seem to forget this more than anything...its all about the driver! put a professional rally driver in a chevette and he will pound the snot of out it...mean while you could put a 16 year old who just learnt to drive in an enzo and he will probally kill himself on his first corner...
Nov 27 2010 7:04PM
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XtRemE11
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i completely disagree about the evo being worse on loose surfaces, having driven both in snow, and a little dirt, the evo's handling advantage stays the same when it gets slippery too.

but yeah i completely agree about the driver thing. all you really need is a well balanced car, if you cant have fun in something like a miata, e30, old gti etc.. then you need to learn how to drive, the last thing you need is a bunch of power to cover up your bad driving.

honestly, id much rather drive an mx5 or a miata over an sti, or even an evo, just because its so much more involving, better feeling, and challenging to keep speed.
Nov 27 2010 7:12PM
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Inbred_Redneck
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LOL


trucks pwn at everything offroad. Most rallying is just road racing with dirt roads and little bit of snow.
Nov 27 2010 7:30PM
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Luc.
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o yea?

hmm...well i havnt driven both, i just took the advice of a friend who races an STI in the CRC...

isnt the evo a lot more expensive than the STI? i forget the price points
Nov 27 2010 7:53PM
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Inbred_Redneck
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Buy my dad's Z3 and drop an LS1 in it. Youll pwn pretty much anything on the road. Plus bitches love convertables.
Nov 27 2010 8:11PM
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TROLLED.HARD
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Go with the
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here are your available m3's that suit your price range.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?lastBeginningStartYear=1981&num_records=25&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&search_type=both&distance=0&address=12345&marketZipError=false&body_style=COUPE&make=BMW&model=M3&make2=&start_year=2001&end_year=2012&min_price=0&max_price=20000&seller_type=b&transmission=&engine=&drive=&doors=&fuel=&max_mileage=&color=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywords_display=&sort_type=priceDESC&body_code=2&certified=&advanced=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&showZipError=y&default_sort=newsortbyprice_DESC&awsp=false&systime=&sownerid=74770&rdm=1290908834192




or get a
1995 R32 Skyline GTR
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you can message me if you have any more questions.
Nov 27 2010 8:49PM
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TROLLED.HARD
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Rotary is not a bad idea. if you were to chose a rotary, an enthusiast would take the rx7 over the rx8 because the rx8 is a peice of shit.
it's just hard to find the right mechanics to work on rotary's considering how little car companys make them. Rotarys can be the most reliable engine ever. and, the rx7 has not been beaten for the most power to weight ratio.ever.
Nov 27 2010 8:53PM
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XtRemE11
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EVO's cost about the same as an sti new. EVO's seem to hold their value a tad more, but they are pretty much the same price.
Nov 27 2010 9:16PM
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Luc.
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looks like both fully loaded are about 10 dimes apart
Nov 28 2010 12:03AM
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T.DUDE
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wrx, outback, a6
Nov 28 2010 12:04AM
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Static
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if it's not for skiing don't even consider awd ski cars, get a viper
Nov 28 2010 12:22AM
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ShredTheGnarnia
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my guess is you have a good ski car/suv already and this will be a purely fun car, so i would go with the s2k. that car stands for everything you want. purist rwd, small, light, racey
Nov 28 2010 1:26AM
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Whifazoo
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hehehe
Nov 28 2010 1:45AM
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XtRemE11
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meh i dunno, ive only driven an rx8, but its one of the best cars ive ever driven, from what ive heard the rx8 is a better drivers car.
Nov 28 2010 4:44AM
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JSLV
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Coming from my neighbor who has owned many sti's and evos in his life time(currently has a 22b Subaru). He says evo will be quicker but they are shit cars. Evos gave Mitsubishi the nickname bits-are-missing as they tend to fall apart. I would honestly go for a Subaru Impreza 22B, best car they ever made hands down.
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Aluminum head and block construction. Longitudinally mounted.

2212 cm3 96.9mm bore 75mm stroke, flat 4 cylinders, water cooled. Red line @8000 rpm. 280 Bhp@6500 rev/min, 363 Nm@3200rev/min. IHI turbo charger oil lubricated, water cooled (1.0 bar Max pressure) and water sprayed intercooler. Compression ratio: 8:1

2 OHC per cylinder bank belt driven. 4 valves per cylinder. Oil cooler.

0-100Km/h acceleration: 4.2S
Max speed: 248Km/h

0-400m acceleration: 13.6S

0-1000m acceleration: 24.9S

Keep in mind this came out of the factory with "280"bhp as did 2jz supras and gtr skylines did at the time to meet the Japans limit on horsepower but in reality they have 350bhp and it only way 1270kg's
Nov 28 2010 5:00AM
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grown-ninja
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50grand might seem like a lot now but 50g's after taxes, rent, insurance, personal expenses, food and so on doesnt leave you that much wiggle room to drop 15k on a car (say around 300 a month if finance for 5 years) I guess it depends on where you live but around here where a nice 1 bedroom costs about 1400 a month 15k on a car is a lot
Nov 28 2010 8:42AM
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t-roy
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i'm sure you know that audi's and bmw's are insane to repair. be careful about them and make sure the year you buy is a good year. i've heard that certain years are more prone to breaking down. this could be a myth though.

i checked ebay and you can get a pretty clean '03 M3 for around 20k or just under.

take a look at this...all wheel drive, twin turbo...
Nov 28 2010 9:19AM
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.Annydrew.
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BMW 3 series 2.2d?
Nov 28 2010 9:48AM
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Trollolo
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Thanks for the help guys. Decided to go with the evo 7. After cruising through some forums I'm hooked. You can make them super quick relatively easy and reliably. Plus if I'm spending 15k on a car I better be able to drive it all year round.

oh, and to the retard who posted the Z06. I decided to lease a lambo instead. And when thats up I'm picking up a new bentley.

Nov 28 2010 11:39AM
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matt.s
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evo
Nov 28 2010 11:46AM
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comeatmebro
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good decision. definitely the best car up there you had listed, you won't be disappointed.
Nov 28 2010 12:08PM
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Inbred_Redneck
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AAHAA

Z06s are legendary bro.
Nov 28 2010 12:10PM
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Luc.
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meh. for the price there are many other cars i would prefer.
Nov 28 2010 1:26PM
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B_Sellegren
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sti. super fun cars. or a jetta those are cheap but also pretty nice.
Nov 28 2010 2:16PM
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Bong_Master
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id go sti great car, always a head turner, awd will let you drive in a ton of conditions and the sti is very fun to drive.
Nov 28 2010 2:19PM
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idskithat
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what about just a basic lancer, not a lancer evo

would this be worth it to make it fast and what not?
Nov 28 2010 2:33PM
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