ok well i don't think my hands get cold easily and i would prefer gloves that don't have removalble liners and yeah it could see rain i live in Australia i am goin to UT on the 26th of December and need new gloves. does this help?
yeah i heard Hestra have good gloves.
if you are looking for something warm, just go with mitts. even shitty mittens are on a whole other level of warmth than good gloves.