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Whats more extreme Skiing or Snowboarding !!! Please Help !!!

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Nowely
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Hello people

I am a 3rd year student from the university of Portsmouth and i am doing my dissertation project on the sensation seeking differences between skiing and snowboarding and whether these differences then lead to having more likelihood of experiencing conflict on the slopes. if you could please fill in the questionnaire by following the link below i would be very grateful.

http://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=9bd9ebc6-1a9a-482d-acdc-35edf3ec599e

Please answer the questions truthfully and thankyou very much, i will post my results from the study on here after i have analysed and reported them.

Plus just to make this clear as some people seem to been having a few issues. The questionnaire was not designed by me it is the work of a Dr Marvin Zuckerman and measures the psychological trait of sensation seeking. The questionnaire is for both skiers and snowboarders and the results have not been manipulated in any way.

Thanks
Sam Nowell

Oct 9 2010 11:54AM
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Testicles
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Oct 9 2010 8:40PM
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I.B
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i'm 14 years of age. Theres no dam category for that.
Oct 9 2010 8:42PM
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Nowely
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Sorry the survey is only ment for people over the age of 18 thats why, sorry.
Oct 9 2010 9:03PM
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tride
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Is it really that difficult to read the post and understand that the OP did not come up with these questions?

He has already said OVER AND OVER AND OVER that he is using a standardized questionnaire which was written by some doctor and is a widely accepted standard in the field at which he is studying.

He says this in the original post, and has already been forced to say it ten more times in this thread, because somehow half the people responding to this thread have failed to grasp that extremely simple point.

How hard is that to understand? Why do people keep criticizing this guy as if he wrote and designed this questionnaire himself, when he has stated about ten times already that he didn't.

If you have a criticism of the questionnaire, then go and find Dr Marvin Whatsisface who wrote the thing and argue about it with him. Leave the OP alone, poor guy gets on here asking for some help and everyone jumps all over him trying to prove how much smarter they are... it's unbelievable how much this site sucks sometimes.


Oct 10 2010 2:19AM
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gnarles.
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stupid
Oct 10 2010 2:36AM
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miketheskier88
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It's because he can design his own questionnaire rather than use this shitty one but chooses not to. That's why he's getting abused.
Oct 10 2010 3:50AM
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tride
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Sure, he could design his own questionnaire to determine sensation seeking traits among the general population. Just like I could design my own drivers license test, or a paramedic could design his own version of the Glascow Coma Scale.

Good luck having any of those things accepted as an "industry standard test" without years of research, testing, re-writing, challenges from others in the industry, etc. etc etc.

His dissertation is not the designing of a sensation seeking questionnaire. It's simply a tool that he's using. If he wants a good mark, he obviously can't make up his own test, he has to use a "tool" that the scientific community accepts and regards as a standard.
Oct 10 2010 4:16AM
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miketheskier88
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The test is 40 fucking years old dude. He could have at least reworded it. Besides it's a dissertation, he's not trying to create an industry-standard. Why does he need to use a "standardised" test? Surely as long as his questionnaire is fair, balanced, and obtains the necessary results then that's all what's needed.

You will find that most science students tend to make their own questionnaires when trying to find out qualitative data...

Oct 10 2010 4:56AM
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--ski--
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done mate, yeah there may be some whack questions but who really gives a fuck, your helping a fellow skier out.
Oct 10 2010 5:48AM
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.Annydrew.
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i live in portsmouth!
Oct 10 2010 6:05AM
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je_mapelle
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University of Portsmouth? I live in Chichester dude so will definately fill this out for you when i get back from work... good luck too
Oct 10 2010 6:44AM
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Nowely
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The test is not 40 years old I am using the sensation seeking scale V that was revised and re written in 1994. Also obviously i could write my own questionnaire but for my choice of study how valid and accurate would that questionnaire be, the answer is not very. Why make a questionnaire when there is already a very respected and valid questionnaire out there that does what i want it to. If you feel like I’m not doing the work for my dissertation all you have to think is there is 45 questions per questionnaire and I have had over 150 responses already and that’s not enough. Would you fancy writing all that up into a spreadsheet and working out all their sensation seeking scores.

Oct 10 2010 7:20AM
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miketheskier88
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Sorry, it's only 16 years old.. and the University of Edinburgh (better than Portsmouth) advises its students not to use it. Your questionnaire isn't valid for this project anyway.

Also.. that's not a lot of work. If you had some intelligence you would make a script to calculate it all for you. Take probably a few hours to do the input and everything to get all the scores. Not really a lot considering its a dissertation.

You really need to learn how to take critique better.
Oct 10 2010 7:45AM
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Nowely
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Maybe i would take critique better if it was from a respectable source. Im just repeating myself over and over. Also if you read Edinburgh University warns of old outdated versions, while i am using the sensation seeking scale V that was written in 1994 I’m ok thanks.

Oct 10 2010 7:54AM
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miketheskier88
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I give up. Don't come on here and ask for us to fill out the questionnaire for you if you can't handle the obvious backlash from stupid fucking questions regarding people's sexuality.
Oct 10 2010 7:58AM
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Nowely
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But I have answered similar questions so many times. Sensation seeking isn’t just about thrill seeking its split into 4 sub scales. Also as much as you don’t like the questions the survey is a well known valid way to measure sensation seeking, that’s it that’s what it does. So where you think the questions are irrelevant they are not as they all add to your overall sensation seeking trait.

Oct 10 2010 8:06AM
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miketheskier88
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How the fuck does one persons view to a persons sexuality have anything to do with sensation seeking?


Oct 10 2010 8:07AM
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pow314
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i would put it on tetongravity research. also a skiing website, but generally an older average age than here on newschoolers, and with a more mountaneering approach.
Oct 10 2010 8:23AM
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Nowely
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Thankyou :)
Oct 10 2010 8:44AM
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Nowely
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Does anyone know of any more good online ski/snowboard forums? other than Goneboarding, Snowheads, Natives and Teton?

Oct 10 2010 9:35AM
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Chompo.
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lot of typos and way to many questions, but i did it anyways.
Oct 10 2010 10:04AM
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tride
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Here's an idea, why not ask the guy who developed the test, here he is:

http://bigthink.com/marvinzuckerman

You are obviously such an expert in this field that he would certainly welcome your critique, maybe he will even ask you to rewrite new questions for him. That would be such a wonderful contribution you could make to society, sharing your brilliant mind with the rest of the world.
Oct 10 2010 1:48PM
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Nowely
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Ha ha thank you tride you can see it from my point of view. :)
Oct 10 2010 2:46PM
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Mike-O
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I'm all up for challenging old schools of thought, especially in fields like sociology, psych and philosophy, but you just don't go and create a new thrill-seeking study from scratch, I think that's what some people in this thread fail to see.

On the other hand, you could implement a more basic (less questions) but a bit more diverse (more options) research questionnaire based on the results on this one, and then give it another go. If it works out, you'll be in professor-orgasm heaven for doing the effort of challenging something trusted and "true" with your own agenda.
Oct 10 2010 3:02PM
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MadMaxamas
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Both sports are growing in popularity for sure. The only thing that makes skiing slightly more extreme is our ability to do more technical tricks with more ease at higher speeds. Not because we are better, but because we have the ability to use more edge coverage to stomp landings. And also having the ability to separate our legs when off balance helps as well.
Oct 10 2010 3:28PM
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Nowely
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I understand what your saying and I did think that, its just a questionnaire made by a undergraduate student would have no where near the amount of validity compared to using the original designed by a leader of study in the subject. If I was doing my masters or a PHD then i would have add my own personal touch.

 I will write up all the criticism I have had from the survey into my dissertation and will make suggestions for improvement to the questionnaire as I know there are flaws.

But thank you for your input its good to hear constructive criticism rather than just morons thinking they know everything.  

Oct 10 2010 5:23PM
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Nowely
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I just want to say Newschooler forum people are so much better than any other forum by far. so thanks :)
Oct 10 2010 5:54PM
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Nowely
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:)

Oct 10 2010 7:40PM
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Panduh_Bayr
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Same.
Oct 10 2010 7:50PM
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Panduh_Bayr
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he spelled "brief" wrong.

Oct 10 2010 7:53PM
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Daydreaming
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Really? That is sad considering it's poor reception here so far...
Anyways did it, best of luck.

For Dr. Marvin Whoever:
Who the hell uses the term jet set anymore? I'm not even sure that "in the jet set" was still "in the jet set" in 1994.
Oct 10 2010 8:01PM
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JahJahBinks
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hahaha I thought it said " I am a 3rd grade student"
Oct 10 2010 8:06PM
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summersover
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Im confused so does wanting to know homosexual people make me extreme?
Oct 10 2010 8:10PM
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Panduh_Bayr
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it did, you read it correctly.
Oct 10 2010 8:11PM
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summersover
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okay guess i didnt read the rest of this shitshow thread but this survey seems borderline ridiculous and if the point is to find the difference between the sports themselves based off of the average participant i dont think its gonna give you reliable results.
Oct 10 2010 8:12PM
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Nowely
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Thanks for doing it anyway :)
Oct 10 2010 8:26PM
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Nowely
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Bet everyone loves questionnaires on monday morning :)

Oct 11 2010 5:43AM
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ContaminatedBeef
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So then why ask whether we're skiers or boarders?
Oct 11 2010 9:21AM
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ContaminatedBeef
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" I would never want to try jumping out of a plan with or without a parachute."

 Make sure you have your parachute when jumping out of plans
Oct 11 2010 9:25AM
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Nowely
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Because my whole study is to see if there is a difference between the two?
Oct 11 2010 10:09AM
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dejNasty
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done. struggled to find a correlation between a lot of the questions but good luck anyways.
Oct 11 2010 10:27AM
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Nowely
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Cheers buddy :)
Oct 11 2010 12:50PM
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FearTheBeard.
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that was a terrible quiz. half the questions i couldve picked both answers or neither of them. what was this "thrill seeking" in relation to when Dr zuckerman or w.e used this? because most of it has nothing to do with skiing.
Oct 11 2010 1:01PM
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Nowely
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The questionnaire doesnt have anything to do with sking have said this many times it is just to measure your sensation seeking trait.
Oct 11 2010 1:40PM
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rostog
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this thread is classic
Oct 11 2010 1:46PM
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Panduh_Bayr
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haha i will keep that in mind
Oct 11 2010 1:52PM
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Nowely
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thanks to everyone that filled in my survey today cheers guys :)
Oct 11 2010 8:09PM
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justinstlaurent
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filled it out brah
Oct 11 2010 10:09PM
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Nowely
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Morning people lovely day for a survey :)
Oct 12 2010 6:30AM
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spk.aurelien
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hijacked) where is the mecca of skiing, park city, summit county aspen or whistler
Oct 12 2010 8:02AM
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