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Super soft skis that can handle natural features, jibs, etc.

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Imagination
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Hey guys, I'm looking for a ski that will still be super soft even for a kid who weighs 105 pounds. Last year I had the Volkl Ledges, while the nose was soft, the tail was a little to stiff for me, since I like doing tail butters too. I'm mainly into taps, butters, and alot of jibs. Do you guys have any suggestions, thanks alot, +K for bumps.
Sep 13 2010 8:36PM
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fLyInG-liNeS
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look into ep pros

best pow ski ever
Sep 13 2010 8:38PM
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Ben.
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ep pro if you are going to be in almost all powder, bacons if you want something a little more versatile.

hellbents are also really soft, though not quite as noodly as the ep pros
Sep 13 2010 8:42PM
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Imagination
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Oh, haha, sorry guys, I live on the east coast and Connecticut on that, so more of a soft park ski with some pop, or maybe like the volkl ledges, but a little softer and a soft tail.
Sep 13 2010 8:45PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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haha i was wondering why you guys were telling him to get EP's. Check disorderlys, domains, or afterbangs.
Sep 13 2010 8:49PM
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.cam.
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look into some used or maybe, maybe new line invaders. also maybe some elizabeths if you can find them or masterminds,
Sep 13 2010 8:49PM
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Ben.
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hm. some old anthems if you could track em down would be pretty soft.

or the k2 disorderly. could probably still find some of last years for pretty cheap

http://www.untracked.com/p2502c51b37-09_k2_disorderly_symmetrical_twin_tip_skis.html
if you can ride the 179
Sep 13 2010 8:50PM
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jeremy.g
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definately check out some symmetrical park skis. sounds like you would probably want that. afterbangs, reno rockers, reno jibs. disorderlys. all that good stuff
Sep 13 2010 8:51PM
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.cam.
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reno jibs are stiff as fuck.
Sep 13 2010 9:04PM
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Ben.
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jibs and rockers are both on the stiffer side.

disorderlies i think are pretty soft. but im also 6'3" and 200 lbs so that makes them softer too lol
Sep 13 2010 9:06PM
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.cam.
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ya i might not be the best person to recommend soft skis either. I am 6 foot 4 250 lbs.
Sep 13 2010 9:14PM
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jeremy.g
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ya im pretty big as well. but the jibs are supposed to be much softer this year.
Sep 13 2010 9:23PM
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gus555
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line afterbangs are made to be durable and soft for like urban and rails, but can akso
Sep 13 2010 9:35PM
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MurderBert
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I would definitely recommend the line anthems, suuuuuuuuper poppy and flexy. All around a really fun ski

Sep 13 2010 9:36PM
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gus555
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i hate my ipod, but as i was saying, they can also hold their own on jumps, and are rather soft, i live in CT too and i'm getting a-bangs this year
Sep 13 2010 9:36PM
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AJizzle
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If u weigh 105, the only ski that is gonna be super soft is a wmn's ski
Sep 13 2010 9:40PM
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Gstrong
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thalls
Sep 13 2010 9:45PM
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XtRemE11
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afterbangs or any of the new k2 park skis
Sep 13 2010 10:30PM
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PhilboydStudge
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Quoting jeremy.g from Sep 13 20109:23:55:
ya im pretty big as well. but the jibs are supposed to be much softer this year.

Just stop talking Jeremy...
Sep 13 2010 10:35PM
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jeremy.g
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? everything i said was completely factual. the jibs are much softer this year. if he is just jibbing a symmetrical ski would be ideal. and those were some examples of a few.
Sep 13 2010 10:46PM
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PhilboydStudge
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He wanted super soft skis, neither the rockers nor the jibs are close to that...
Sep 13 2010 10:51PM
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jeremy.g
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the jibs will closer to that. just something to look into broski
Sep 13 2010 10:59PM
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PhilboydStudge
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Just because they made them slightly softer doesn't mean they are super soft, they're actually still labeled medium/stiff. And he's only 105 lbs. Best bet would be to find old invaders or something.
Sep 13 2010 11:42PM
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gr4
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i have some used black surface watch life's from a few years ago and they are the softest skis ive ever flexed. like way softer than invaders.
Sep 14 2010 1:17AM
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Rockhound
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softer than EP's...i doubt it

i bet if i tried i could touch one end of the ski to the other

i have 166 abangs from last year...they kinda feel dead now
i like em and they work well, but def go for somthing lighter like the t-hall. i tried my friends out at camp and became %150 better at rails, but i was just as good with the abangs after, so to each his own
Sep 14 2010 1:29AM
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gr4
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the kid was asking about park skis
Sep 14 2010 1:32AM
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Rockhound
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my bad, i honestly thought the watch life was a pow ski....god i need to read up on the different skis b4 i post

Sep 14 2010 1:38AM
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Taylor_A
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AFTERBANGS
Sep 14 2010 2:58AM
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I_Am_Mod
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ep pros for powder

i recently bought a used and beat up pair of rossignol scratch blings (look it up) and it's, when hand flexed, even more of a noodle than the ep pro ....

and theyre more of a park/allround ski whereas the ep is strictly for the deep powder ....
Sep 14 2010 3:56AM
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Imagination
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Hey guys, thanks alot, +K to all of you. What I am really looking for though is a ski with a super low swing weight, butter zones in the tip and tail with a softer flex, and light. Basically an all-jib ski that can hold up to rails and 30-foot jumps without totally washing out. But I don't think they make a ski like that.
Sep 14 2010 3:23PM
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Gstrong
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t-halls
Sep 14 2010 3:27PM
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Imagination
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Really? I new that they were somewhat soft in the tip or tail, but are they light? And does the tip have an even flex whith the tail? And would they be soft enough for me, because those were one of my options but I wasn't sure that they'd be soft enough and playful enough.

Sep 14 2010 4:19PM
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Mogwai.
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check out k2's new ski, the revival. i was lookin at them at my local ski shop a couple weeks ago and they look so dope.  k2 has new Jib Rocker Technology on them a they have Bi-Directional Taper. they aren't 100% symmetrical but the taper supposedly makes them super maneuverable. the rocker and the softness of them would be so sick for butters and presses but they'll still a tough ski that will stomp landings. they are 40% pow and 60 % so you can really do whatever in them. I'm gonna get my hands on a pair whenever i can cause they look too good to pass up. check em out man and let me know what you think.
Sep 14 2010 4:30PM
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Balto
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older t-halls were noodles, new ones are beefed up a bit. They dont have a symmetrical flex, you'll be hard pressed to find a non symmetrical ski that does.

you dont need a super soft ski to be playful, a rockered ski will be just as, if not more playful. Only issue is, alot of the rockered park skis on the market are not that fantastic out of the park(the alpha series from my experience). Consider on3p J-mos, k2 revivals, and moment rockers, all of which are very playful but will still hold their own when laying down turns on grooms compared to skis like anthems and afterbangs
Sep 14 2010 4:37PM
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DUKES
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the thalls have a flex pattern of 5 in the tips, 8 underfoot, and 5.5 in the tails. The tips and tails are soft for jibs and butters, but stiff underfoot to keep stability on small to medium jumps. They are light since armada changed them to the ar50 sidewall construction(a blend of cap construction and abs sidewalls, cap con lowers swing weight, and abs keeps the ski durable and more forgiving underfoot)
Sep 14 2010 4:37PM
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Balto
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that doenst mean anything, there is no standardized flex scale
Sep 14 2010 4:39PM
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DUKES
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im just going by armada
Sep 14 2010 4:48PM
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wameron
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kung fujas
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Sep 14 2010 4:59PM
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Gstrong
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there tip and tails, there decently light, they will prolly be playful enough for you
Sep 14 2010 5:57PM
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Imagination
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Yeah, I saw those in a 189 at a local shop, but I heard they were on the heavier side and I'm looking for something a little less wide and with a symmetrical flex. Do they make a ski that has rocker, butter zones (I know that that might be a lttle much but it'd be pretty sick) low swing weight, even flex that's a little stiffer underfoot, is lightweight, softer, and is symmetrical? That's basically the kind of ski I'm looking for, thanks again for the help guys.
Sep 14 2010 6:18PM
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Bumblesteeze
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The revivals are sicks skis bud, the thing is that they aren't soft. The K2 domain on the other hand is softer and is fully symmetrical. They aren't as soft as invaders but they are fairly soft and the rocker on these skis will be very helpful for butters. These skis have zero camber so they will be great on rails while a 90 underfoot will increase the stability at high speeds.
Sep 14 2010 6:30PM
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SHampson
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Have you thought about the Line Elizabeths? They could be real sick.
Sep 14 2010 7:17PM
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jibjunkie
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ive never understood how the center of a ski can be soft? so many skis are "stiff underfoot for stability and soft in the tip and tail" its bs you cant have a soft underfoot ski...
Sep 14 2010 9:00PM
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Hamster.
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if you can pick up and old pair of invaders go for it
Sep 14 2010 10:46PM
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Bonzalo
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Alpha 1 or 2, maybe? what do you think?
Sep 14 2010 11:20PM
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AJizzle
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The rocker on a park ski is the better zone, saying that they are rockered and had butter zones would be redundant
Sep 14 2010 11:23PM
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robDAbank
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Armada Halo, check it out, it's every thing ur after
Sep 15 2010 7:13AM
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Imagination
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Yeah, I saw those, they seem sick. The only thing I'm concerned about is the size, since I like to do a lot of little spins too. Do they have super low swingweight, and were they softer in previous years?
Sep 16 2010 7:54PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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they are new this year so i guess you could compare them to previous years alphas.
Sep 16 2010 8:19PM
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Ben.
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they are insanely light
Sep 16 2010 11:13PM
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XtRemE11
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are they soft? like kung fujas soft?
Sep 19 2010 5:49PM
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