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84891jnf92048
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its in the other forums, why not here? so, any "what camera should i buy?", "what is a good song", etc. questions go here.
Sep 2 2010 10:23PM
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dbchili
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hey guys, i just kinda got back into editing after a long hiatus. If you don't mind having a watch and giving your feedback (here or via pm) it'd be greatly apprecaited

thanks!
Dec 23 2013 5:13PM
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cydwhit
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ok, laptop question... I am getting a macbook to edit with and use for school. I will be mostly using it for editing with photoshop, premier, and a little bit of aftereffects. I have an old 27 inch iMac I would like to use as a monitor for editing as well. I believe this is possible but I have not researched it thoroughly so screen size should not really be an issue. Right now I am looking at this one:
Specs:

8GB (2 x 4GB) of 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM
750GB Serial ATA @ 5400 rpm
Intel HD Graphics 4000
2.9GHz Dual-core Intel i7

for $1269


specs:

2.5GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
128GB Solid State Drive
also $1269

and this one:


  • Retina display2.4GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 2.9GHz
  • 8 gb ram
  • 128GB Solid State Drive
  • $1289
  • I will be putting my footage on external drives so hard drive space will not be an issue.
  • So, oh media and artsy people, which one of these will give me the best bang for my buck? Which one will allow me to edit the quickest and not have to wait for the computer? Should I put my priority on processing power or a solid state drive? Is retina worth it? Please weigh in with any input. Thanks!
Jan 15 2014 10:48PM
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gravel
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I use this exact computer. Works fucking phenomenally. I've edited several projects in Premiere, AE, plus extensive PS, Illustrator, and Lightroom work, never had an issue with it. I use a 22 inch external monitor with it that works perfectly. If you have specific questions, PM me.
Jan 15 2014 10:53PM
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eheath
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Definitely get a solid state.

That being said, 13" mbps dont have dedicated graphics cards, which helps out alot with premiere and after effects.

If you can afford a 15" retina, I would get it.
Jan 15 2014 10:53PM
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cydwhit
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Dang, really can't go the 15 inch route, as tempting as it is. Keep in mind that this is my upgrade from an old 27 inch iMac with a 3.2 Ghz i3 and 4 gb of ram so as awesome as it would be to get something really nice I am really looking to stay as close to a grand as possible. Basically my biggest concern is the first one having a better processor and no solid state drive, the second one have medium processor and a sold state drive and the last one having retina (don't actually know how much this matters) a solid state drive, but the slowest processor. I know theoretically what all the stats mean but I don't really know so well how they will translate into real world performance. Is a 2.9GHz Dual-core Intel i7 with a normal hard drive going to run Premier faster then a 2.5GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz on a solid state drive? and if the solid state is really that much faster is it worth the loss in processor to jump to the last one with retina? Thanks!
Jan 15 2014 11:04PM
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eheath
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Don't ever use a better computer or you'll be very disappointed haha I have a very similar spec'd mb air and compared to my editing desktop... fuck haha
Jan 15 2014 11:08PM
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cydwhit
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Also thanks for the quick answers! I'd karma ya'll up but you're already toped out, haha
Jan 15 2014 11:12PM
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gravel
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Ha, I don't doubt you. But really for the purposes that I need it for, it works great. I used to have a 13 inch i5, and this is a damn good step up from that alone.
Jan 15 2014 11:14PM
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cydwhit
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So, Mr. Rudy says get the first one, Eheath says don't get any of them but if I do get one of the last two, anyone else have any definitive input? I am tempted to get the last one just because it is the newest and has retina and the solid state drive. Thanks!
Jan 15 2014 11:32PM
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Laurent.
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Sell kidney, buy Mac Pro.
Jan 16 2014 12:23AM
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cydwhit
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If I was going to do that I would buy something better then a computer, haha, right now my big question is is the faster processor on the first one better then the flash memory of the last one?
Jan 16 2014 4:54PM
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Balto
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No, flash memory is always the way to go over a slightly higher clocked cpu and a HDD at 5400 rpm, seriously thats the worst hard drive and bottle neck you can get
Jan 17 2014 10:29AM
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cydwhit
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Thanks! I got the newest one and was still not quite confident in my decision so that is good to hear
Jan 17 2014 10:43AM
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GuacamoleMane
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So i just got a quick release plate so i could fit my camera on my glidecam but the quick release plate isn't flat on the bottom so i can only mount it on the leftmost hole on the cheese grate. This obviously means its way off center and i have to stack up the weights on the right side. Will this be a big deal to film with and stuff? The glide cam is still balanced but the camera is just way off to one side.
Jan 17 2014 6:31PM
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raymondcabral
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What do you guys use for fluid video heads? I want something good, but I dont want to break the bank. Right now I have a bal head, and it's not so much for panning.

I want to spend about $120, but I could probably save up to 150ish. I was looking at the Manfrotto 502ah, and it looks nice. But out of my price range currently.

Do you guys have any other suggestions?

Thanks!
Jan 17 2014 8:55PM
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BlackcountryBill
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I just got a 502ah and it's so smooth. Super happy with it.
Jan 19 2014 5:23AM
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raymondcabral
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Word, how much did you pay for it?
Jan 19 2014 8:41AM
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hugopeckham
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I've heard the 701 is worth looking at. Anyone want to back me up on this with personal experience?
Jan 19 2014 12:40PM
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BlackcountryBill
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£75, ebay, new.

I'm so glad I got it, the adjustable drag is so useful.
Jan 19 2014 1:36PM
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lIllI
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If you're going with a Manfrotto head, just get a 701 and don't even bother with anything more expensive. It isn't any nicer.
Jan 19 2014 2:23PM
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raymondcabral
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Thanks for the responses guys, any experience with the 500ah from manfrotto? ebay listings claim that it replaces the 701
Jan 19 2014 5:09PM
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gravel
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I have the 701 and have shot almost exclusively tripod this season. It pans well if you get the hang of it, but it's not impeccably smooth. Like Landis said, it's totally good enough and all you'll really need.
Jan 19 2014 8:57PM
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SeanTom
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Just wrapped this up. Any feedback would be appreciated!
Jan 21 2014 12:42PM
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CheddarJack
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^ I feel like that was a bit longer than it needed to be as there were a lot of repeated tricks (nose presses stood out) and shots of him in between or after jibs. Also, It definitely had a raw run feel to it (which I enjoyed) so the few tripod shots kind of seemed out of place. I would have tried to include a few more to keep the variation.
I'm no expert but that's just what I noticed. Good work tho!
Jan 21 2014 1:09PM
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gravel
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^^ Never crop to cinemascope by squashing the video to a 2.35:1 ratio, always just crop the video
Jan 21 2014 2:04PM
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Laurent.
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Everyone looks fat.

Protip: don't squish video.
Jan 21 2014 2:36PM
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BlackcountryBill
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I though it was unwatchable because of the stretch. It ruined all the good filming and editing.

Go back, and crop it and it'll be 1000 times better.
Jan 21 2014 5:34PM
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steezysteeze
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Bringing this overlooked post to light because it is relevant to my interests.
Jan 21 2014 10:06PM
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SeanTom
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thinking size, weight, size of negatives, style of shooting (waist level vs eyecup), probably some other things.
Jan 21 2014 10:43PM
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DUCKS
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Whats a good beginner telephoto? I have a kit 18-55 and an 8mm (for a t2i), want something with more zoom...
Is the kit 55-250 decent or is there a better lens for about/ a little more than the price of that one?
Jan 22 2014 8:30PM
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lIllI
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one is 645 and the other is 6x7. Mamiya puts out some of the nicest glass money can buy, especially the rz primes. Though the RZ is huge pain in the ass to use outside of a studio/non-walking environment. Haven't used the 645, but I'd imagine it's just as good. Ask Vandersteeze or Balto.
Jan 22 2014 10:10PM
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raymondcabral
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I have a 70-300 USM that I really like from Canon. I've only heard good things about the 70-200 f4L non-is, which seems like a pretty respected lens on this site.... What's your price range?
Jan 22 2014 11:50PM
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Childstar.
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I've butchered Initial D for a class assignment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyw8wVI8goI

Assignment was to cut a Movie into a trailer that made the movie seem like it was about something else.



Jan 23 2014 2:12AM
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DUCKS
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<$200 Unless there aren't any worth getting for that price... up to 300 I guess if anything cheaper isn't worth it
Jan 23 2014 9:23PM
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raymondcabral
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This is the lens I was talking about, and you can usually get it for under 300 used, and under 400 new if you look around. I recommend this lens haha
Jan 23 2014 9:53PM
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cydwhit
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So, looking into shooting film a little bit, is this a good deal?

Jan 24 2014 12:19AM
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DIPED_IN_SAUCE
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I've shot on one and it felt pretty durable and that's a decent lens. Good starter camera for sure. I'm not a huge fan of the way the Olympus feels in my hands but that's more personal preference. but for 35 bucks not bad, ask him if he's got a bag/film/flash or other accessories.
Jan 24 2014 12:23AM
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cydwhit
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thanks, will do!

Jan 24 2014 12:30AM
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No.Quarter
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The lens is great, but the body is very meh. It is very plastic-y and doesn't feel very durable or well built especially comparing it to other film cameras that aren't much more expensive. Even compared to my plastic-y Canon Rebel SLR, the OM-10 feels a lot less well built.
Jan 24 2014 1:01AM
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cydwhit
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Dang, it looks so solid, haha, he just has the strap and some filters, I am meeting him today and will try and talk him down a little.
Jan 24 2014 9:15AM
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raymondcabral
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http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/lenses/ef_lens_lineup/lens_telezoom_pro/ef_70_300mm_f_4_5_6_is_usm

a link might help
Jan 24 2014 5:23PM
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milk_man
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How much is a decent camera for filming activities such as skiing? High quality video.

What do you guys use? I'm curious because I don't know much about video production and I need to learn so that I can make a solid edit. Also  what video editing programs do you guys use?
Jan 26 2014 3:49PM
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Laurent.
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NS basic setup:

Footage taken with the T2i with 11-16mm Tokina and edited with Premiere Pro.

Don't forget the film burn effects.
Jan 26 2014 3:57PM
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milk_man
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Do they have that for Mac?
Jan 26 2014 4:03PM
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Laurent.
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No, yes, maybe, who knows, just click here.
Jan 26 2014 4:12PM
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milk_man
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Thanks!
Jan 26 2014 4:20PM
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foodisfun
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Probably threadworthy but I wasn't sure if it was posted already. he also has 2 others posted and i think they're all pretty captivating

Jan 29 2014 6:05PM
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steezysteeze
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Anybody have any experience will/know anything about the Plustek opticfilm 7500i SE? I just saw it in my local classifieds for $250 and I think I could get it for $200.

Also while I'm at it can somebody shed some light on the necessary equipment and cost to process both color and black and white film? I'd probably just start with b&w but I'd expand after a while.

Thanks in advance ;)
Jan 29 2014 6:44PM
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RockNRollNghtClb
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watch my comedy video that i had to make for school



lolz
Jan 30 2014 8:36PM
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DrZoidberg
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I don't want to make a new thread, but maybe somebody familiar with software synths can help me out?

I'm just messing around with stuff like crystal, tyrell N6 and magical 8 bit, stuff like that. All in garage band currently. I just got a midi interface for my keyboard, because I normally just do piano so I never bothered with all this.

The synths have presets, and sometimes it seems that certain presets drop notes. But it's not a hardware issue, I don't think. Some of them seem to only allow one note to be played at a time. So if I'm trying to play something, the entire left hand or right hand part never comes through, or you get bits and pieces. but other presets are fine with me playing like 20 notes at a time if I wanted. Magical 8 bit doesn't have this issue, and it's only with certain settings on the other synths.

I'm not recording or anything, just playing to myself. I've got a 2010 mbp, 10.6 snow leopard, 4gb ram, 2.4ghz intel, so I don't believe it's the hardware. The question is, what parameters might be causing this? Is that a function or something common to synths? The fact that some groups of settings allow many notes and some don't leads me to believe there's a setting that causing this.
Jan 31 2014 10:32AM
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