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Sti or Truck+snowmobile

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creamypies
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basically I got 30k and I am going to college next year at UBC, Queens or Utah

If I get a truck what should I get (needs to have 4x4)
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Aug 8 2010 1:28PM
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Wis_Skier_23
Posts: 2263 - Karma: 245
i say you get this....Chevy Avalanche with some rims on it and tinted windows, would look so BA
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Aug 8 2010 4:52PM
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emopoppins
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pretty solid plan right here.
Aug 8 2010 5:07PM
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grown-ninja
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Yes you have 4 wheel drive in most trucks but the lack of weight over the back tires often negates how great it handles in the snow
Aug 8 2010 5:15PM
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[~_~]
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yes, but sti's can't handle for shit when they're high centered on a tiny snow berm...

if he's hauling a SLED around, I doubt he's going to be on some paved road with a dusting of snow on it. A truck will perform much better in waist deep snow.
Aug 8 2010 5:42PM
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ShredTheGnarnia
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no one answered my question at the end of the first page as to why an sti wouldn't be good for towing....
Aug 8 2010 5:56PM
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montanan
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^ why? because its a performance automobile. Chevy has the corvette, camaro, Ford has Mustang,/ gt 5oo, Dodge has challenger and viper.You ever see any of them towing?? no The STI is subuarus performace automobile. its engine is not wired to tow, ( its tuned to be essentially an everyday rally car), its transmission is not set up or geared for the ratios you would need to tow all day everyday, the suspension with its upgrades over stock is suited for cornering and pulling g s, not trailers.

Basically this vehicle was and is not manufactured, built or engineered to tow, it is an amazing automobile, but for towing a sled you would have to be a fucking retard to get this vehicle.
Aug 8 2010 6:04PM
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nitsua
Posts: 4631 - Karma: 726
07 tacoma or tundra. 4 door of course

and a snowmobile. DUhhhhh


Aug 8 2010 6:07PM
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geteducated
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you can roll around in this with a sled everyone knows that you are into sledding and dealing cocaine too!
Aug 8 2010 6:24PM
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315jibber94
Posts: 880 - Karma: -39
used F-350 turbo chipped superduty??
Aug 8 2010 6:26PM
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Sherpa
Posts: 270 - Karma: 1,774
haha yeh
Aug 8 2010 6:32PM
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860media*
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what he said
Aug 8 2010 6:54PM
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montanan
Posts: 1787 - Karma: 1,346
good idea man!! give it a try and let me know how long your trany holds out!!


Aug 8 2010 7:05PM
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Inb4_P.Dog
Posts: 361 - Karma: 14
i lol at you newschoolers

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-general/144326-trailer-hitch-sti-possible.html
EVIDENCE!!!

" subaru wrx was voted best tow car in 2007"
Aug 8 2010 7:10PM
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GANDALF
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get a dodge neon
Aug 8 2010 7:11PM
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FoxRiderAR77
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It seems like you could tow a sled with either, but if you buy a truck you dont need a sled, just some rails and you can throw it in the back. I have also decided that I'll either be buying a truck or a wrx, if you drive fast more get the WRX, if you offroad more get the pick up.
Aug 8 2010 7:30PM
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Jordan
Posts: 4079 - Karma: 2,122
Grand Cherokee + Sled = Win!
Aug 8 2010 7:39PM
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VT_FLO
Posts: 3806 - Karma: 147
howabout you get a new/ used car for 15k and NOT worry about money for your entire college career
Aug 8 2010 7:48PM
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pigglywiggly
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Used car with lower mileage FTW
Aug 8 2010 7:50PM
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0123456789
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new gcs are boss, i vote this.  and to the guy who called me out for towing adn shit i know nothing about towing, was just tryng to make a suggestion that was the best of both choices (imo) and you dont always have to cut a bumper for a tow hitch on a car, maybe on the sti but not nessecarily on the wrx, but i really have no iea about either and am just rambling now.
Aug 8 2010 9:06PM
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ShredTheGnarnia
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obviously if you are towing a boat or a camper every day, it isn't gonna hold up. but for towing something as light as a sled a little ways maybe every weekend? you don't need something that can tow "all day everyday." its not specifically a tow car; a vast majority of the time the car will be driven without a trailer. wouldnt it be worth it to have a car that's fun to drive 90% of the time you're driving it rather than a truck that will tow like a champ 10% of the time you're driving and be no fun to drive unless you take it offroad?
Aug 8 2010 10:33PM
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wintersway
Posts: 5115 - Karma: 128
psh. second year of college and still have no car. also dont have a job that pays well enough to even start payments on a loan if i took one out for a car.

i need a better job. or three.
Aug 8 2010 11:15PM
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charmander
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is 18-20 mpg shitty mileage?

what the fuck is this world coming too?

my dads 99 dodge gets 18 mpg consistently, 350 hp 800 ft lbs torque.
Aug 8 2010 11:23PM
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No_Dub
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Chyeah man, I had a 04.5 cummins 6spd 4 door LB. After 3 summers of towing a 37ft toy hauler camper across the country, I was getting 25 runnin around town. It was also a dually. So sick. To op, now that I've thought a bit, get a 6spd cummins td. Year dosnt much matter. You could tow a sled no problem and it is fun as fuck to drive.
Aug 8 2010 11:30PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Something you never mentioned was if this vehicle was going to be driven to school or not.  If it's just for commuting/cruising campus the WRX/STi plan is fine.  I hate you, but there is nothing wrong if you have the cash. 
If you need to park this on campus and need it to get you sleddin', a full size truck like a Cummins or Duramax or F350 is going to suck fat donkey balls.  You need something like a used extended cab Tacoma or Frontier or Dakota or something smaller like that.  And some good ramps to get your sled into the box.  Backing up a trailer in the snow is no fun, and will be even less at a crowded trailhead.
Take the leftover cash and put it aside for fixing your sled. 
Aug 9 2010 12:07AM
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T.Rex
Posts: 1272 - Karma: 125

you guys are stupid as hell suggesting a sti for towing, let alon any  subaru for towing, i have lost most faith i had in NS and cars

but seriously get a nice dodge ram 1500 quad cab with a cummins engine in it, just get roll downs for a snowmobile and your good to go, dodge have pretty much the best transmission out there in trucks and a diesel engine gets mad good milege and cummins last forever, then if your looking for something thats fast just keep moding the truck, people really under estimate the power of trucks, you put a good exhust and intake system in them and you can get them cookin, dont waste your money on a sti that your probally going to wreck from speeding and have to pay a ton in repairs for

Aug 9 2010 12:27AM
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00_Koda
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we have the same liking for vehicles son
Aug 9 2010 12:29AM
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charmander
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1500 doesnt get a cummins.

also, dodge trannys arent very good.

but either way a 2500 with a ctd and manual tranny ftw!
Aug 9 2010 12:29AM
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pomme-de-terre
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what the fuck is wrong with you people?


how is an STI supposed to make it up to a fucking trailhead... let alone pulling a trailer with a sled on it? did your mothers smoke crack when they were pregnant with you? how does that seem even remotely possible?

and to those people saying "YA BRO GET THA CUMMINS DIESEL!!"
what the fuck does he need a cummins diesel for? its a 600lb snowmobile. not a 11,000lb 5th-wheel fucking flatbed trailer.
i regularly pull a 6,000lb hay trailer, and a 4,000lb 5th wheel with my sierra 1500. does it have a retarded, oversized, loud, fuel-sucking diesel engine, with a supercharger, stacks and a performance chip? NO. it has none of those things. it has a 6.0 liter v8. and it does just fucking fine. it didnt explode. it didnt even really have trouble. and it didnt cost $65,000 either.


dude, get a used 2005 toyota tacoma, put the sled in the bed of the truck, drive it the fuck around. your life will be so fucking perfect. you will be able to drive in the snow, to school, to work, even offroad. in a sensible, normal, manner.

jesus fuck. so much ignancy.
Aug 9 2010 12:47AM
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charmander
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the thing with your truck, and im not hating, i have a 72 gmc with a stock 350, is that a cummins, will get way more power with way better gas mileage.
Aug 9 2010 12:51AM
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ShredTheGnarnia
Posts: 2544 - Karma: 79
can someone please explain why this is so farfetched instead of just calling us retards?
Aug 9 2010 1:28AM
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Static
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fuckin' miracles
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Aug 9 2010 1:44AM
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Myfirstname.
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Wise man.
Aug 9 2010 1:50AM
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zerospinskier
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Lots of people have given you many reasons. Cars are low and have little suspension travel. The hitch will be pretty low to the ground, even with a raised adapter. A sled will still pull a good amount on the short travel that the STi has, making it handle like crap and sag the ass. Yes, it might be something that would work if you were driving around on flat dry roads, but since this is a snowmobile, it will be taken out up mountain passes with slushy wet roads at best, and snowy blizzard conditions at worst. Might it be fine? Possibly. But there is a much better chance that you will get high centered in the parking lot after a long day where it has been snowing on the car for hours as you try to lug the heavy sled out of there.

Basically, is it possible? maybe. Would I do it? Fuck no.
Aug 9 2010 1:56AM
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hucksplat
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Just for all the nay-sayers:

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I personally own and drive a 1998 Subaru Outback and use it to tow my 2006 Ski-Doo MXZ 800, and sometimes a second sled too. I shred in the Whistler area and have used my car to town my sled up and down logging roads and in the snow.

That being said, purely for hauling the sled (and especially 2 sleds!) it is a less than ideal set up. It definitely got the job done for me all winter, but it also put hella strain on my clutch/transmission. The STI will tow your sled(s) but it will be a drain on its life. I personally don't give a fuck and am happy driving my car into the ground (though I would love to extend its useful life as much as possible). There are many times when I have bottomed out and my suspension is kinda fucked too (but that's mostly from rally racing logging roads in the summer). When it comes to late spring shredding, forget about it. You need a bad ass truck to get that high on many of the access trails. During deep winter, when the snow level is low, the subaru is fine, but you will probably have to cut your sled season shorter than if you have a truck. I'm fine with it cause I just transition into mountain bike, kayak, tennis, and cliff jumping season.

I would be pretty damn stoked to upgrade to a nice turbo diesel truck. A late 2000s Dodge Ram 3500 cummins would be REAL nice, even a 2500. The truck does have its down sides too. It's expensive as fuck to run, it's a bitch to park, and you're not going to look very cool unless you have some 30 inch tires. Plus your sled has to be bad ass enough to match the truck. You'll need at least a 2008 XP or preferably a 2011 E-Tec. But if you are ready to step it up like that, you will be a champion among men.

Get the truck. The Subaru WILL and DOES get the job done, but the truck is superior and you can just ride a dirt bike in the summer for your kicks anyways.


Aug 9 2010 2:21AM
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montanan
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^my point exactly, you could do it of course( obviously if you want to use a subu as a tow rig of course its fucking possible), its just fucking stupid for so many reasons
Aug 9 2010 2:22AM
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geteducated
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fine, but i disagree on turning your truck into a brodozer just to look cool then feeling you have to match your sled to your truck cosmetically.

but i guess you value form over function.
Aug 9 2010 2:24AM
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ElbridgeGerry
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1.) Good sledding terrain is generally accessed by unplowed roads. Having 4 inches of clearance doesn't work.

2.)trucks are awesome

3.) This is America, not fucking Japan.

4.) Men drive trucks, the ugly brown girl in my class drives an STi.
Aug 9 2010 2:25AM
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zagfan5
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sled and truck hands down.  you will not regret it.
Aug 9 2010 2:31AM
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zerospinskier
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#2-4 are very solid points.
Aug 9 2010 2:36AM
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montanan
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you speak da truth brethren
Aug 9 2010 12:23PM
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creamypies
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plus depending on how heavy your load is it could destroy the chassis
Aug 9 2010 1:04PM
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C-Burg
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get an F250 and a sled
Aug 9 2010 1:06PM
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creamypies
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I like your thinking

Aug 9 2010 1:07PM
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T.Rex
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or you could always say fuck subaru's and snowmobile's and get this bad boy............

[IMG]motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0345/Ford_Raptor_1.jpg[/IMG]

AMERICA DOES IT RIGHT WITH TRUCKS

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Aug 9 2010 1:28PM
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T.Rex
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god dam pictures never work for me
Aug 9 2010 1:30PM
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Shlogan
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what do you know, i found both.
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Aug 9 2010 2:19PM
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Oh_So_Hyphy
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get a snowmobile they are super fun

This is the sled i have now

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But you have 30k you can get a much newer one.

Good luck

Aug 9 2010 2:23PM
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Jamestown
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Raptor pic
Aug 9 2010 2:36PM
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mmallender.
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the car stuff aside, i dont know how often you think youre going to get to use a sled at ubc as an engineering major. i go to uvic which is not quite as academic as ubc, and my friends in engineering barely left victoria all year aside from reading break and long weekends, which are very far and in between. not to mention, where are you going to put this sled? i dont know what the deal is with residence at ubc and storing a sled there.

theres a lot more to think about than being able to afford a sled and truck, not to mention sled maintenance... sleds are money holes
Aug 9 2010 2:49PM
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hokkanee
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haha if you could get one of these i would go for that. They're realllly fun
Aug 9 2010 2:52PM
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