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Is it just me? BC double wackflips

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TWoods
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So, I try not to get picky about what people are doing. But it seems recently that a lot of people are doing double wackflips as a go-to banger shot in the BC.

It's the same thing as a double backflip. A little shifty doesn't make it a flat 3. It's still just a wackflip.

Does this bother other people, or should I just stop because either way it's still impressive? All I'm saying is that there are tons of ill doubles to be done in the BC, and the double wackflip is tired.
Jul 11 2010 2:13AM
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nickyp
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The wack flip is sort of a backflip with a Japan, which makes it look like a flat 3 right?

Whatever dubs do in the BC, I'm happy.
Jul 11 2010 2:18AM
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Dukeybrains
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maybe they're fun


I dunno I can't do double backs but I imagine it's sooo crackin
Jul 11 2010 2:25AM
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willy_baller
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They are for sure but way more scarry than dub corks
Jul 11 2010 4:42AM
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belden...
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Im with you although in the new TGR trailer sage does one at the end which is huge so im gonna let that one slide haha.
Also my favorite shot of all time is Tanners double back with the bridge in the background in the massive.
Jul 11 2010 8:48AM
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e.will
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I thought the early revolver teaser was retarded, there were so many of them in the first 30 seconds. got me pissed off.
Jul 11 2010 12:06PM
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fatherb
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Is a wack flip that sort of off-axis backflip thing with the japan that Sammy C does all the time?
Jul 11 2010 12:19PM
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heFF
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awww cemmmon twoods
Jul 11 2010 12:35PM
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WikiWiki
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I dont know about that- double backs on a tramp or diving board- no big- double corks- I get hurt more often than landing them
Jul 11 2010 12:50PM
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Davy.Crockett
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that shot of tanner was so big and that was a straight double back.
Jul 11 2010 12:55PM
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skiierman
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wackflips are the best, that's why
Jul 11 2010 1:04PM
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TheButterHashira
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Im saying fuck a flatspin, I am just going to do wackflips all winter.
Jul 11 2010 4:47PM
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j.bird
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flatspin 3 does not equal backflip japan. Which is what everyone has been doing lately. Real flatspins looks super ill.
Jul 11 2010 5:05PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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no matter how many times I tell one of my friends this, he still doesnt understand

IMO flat 3 > wackflip
Jul 11 2010 5:09PM
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TWoods
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I agree. A real flat 3 is wild and hard to do.

everyone does wackflips and calls them flat 3s. I don't have a problem with wackflips, but it's silly when people call them flat 3s. it's like calling a funny looking frontflip a bio 3.



I wrote this last night when I was about to go to bed after watching the TGR teaser. I still think it's ill, especially sage's huge one, but I just think with the amount of absolutely unreal skiing talent out there, I would just think that there's way more opportunities for ill doubles stomped into pow. It seems like there were more ill doubles being thrown into pow in the movies the last two years than this year.
Jul 11 2010 5:43PM
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TWoods
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btw

a wackflip is a slightly funny looking off-axis ish backflip. Doesn't necessarily need to be done with japan, but that's how most people grab them, because they throw them like a rodeo. They just end up like a backflip.
Jul 11 2010 5:45PM
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thesheik
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he did SOOOOO many in re:session
Jul 11 2010 10:53PM
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Elmo.
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Jul 11 2010 11:02PM
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J-Evs
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poorboyz.....
Jul 11 2010 11:45PM
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fatherb
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ok. Thats what I thought, now I know what it is
Jul 12 2010 7:55AM
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Capurnicus
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i think they look cool and i wish i could do that
Jul 12 2010 11:11AM
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wasatch_rat
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i think people just dont wanna call them wackflips because that makes it sound like a shitty backflip. wackflip japans are one of my favorite tricks, but i set it much differently than a straight backflip. thats why i just call them flat 3s most of the time, because in my head a wackflip just looks like a fucked backflip, but i set it a lot like a flat 5, just without the extra 180. i know in my heart of hearts that its a wackflip because my feet go over my head, but it feels way different than a backflip and i set it way different than a backflip, so the rotation just makes me think of it as a flat not a backflip that gets messed up mid air.

but yes i completely agree a true flatspin 3 is a ballar trick that not many can do.
Jul 12 2010 1:34PM
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skiierman
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its because your grabbing japan....... that's why. no other reason.
Jul 12 2010 2:37PM
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wasatch_rat
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i can do it with a critical too... its not the grab man i set a "wackflip" or flat 3 or whatever u wanna call it much differently than a straight backflip
Jul 12 2010 2:47PM
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TWoods
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I know people don't like the name. They are fun for sure, I'm not discouraging people doing them. I'm just talking about movie shots, or people that are trying to push the double game in the BC

But in my mind if i set a trick like a flat 5 and ended up doing a rodeo 7, it doesn't make the rodeo 7 a flat 5. haha.
Jul 13 2010 12:06AM
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PhaedeD
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i think skiing needs to get back to steezy straight airs.
Jul 13 2010 1:09PM
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TWoods
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and smooth jibbin to switch.

wasn't there one of those in the TGR trailer too?
Jul 14 2010 12:11AM
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-Marc-
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i think they can either look sick like the ones sammy does, or really gay like the double back japan thing wiley miller does all the time. either way it takes balls
Jul 14 2010 12:28AM
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Wild_Style
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ALSO: Double lincoln loops being claimed as "double-flatspins", they are different, and again a "real" flatspin or double flat it quite a bit cooler. Then again, does anyone even call a side-flip a lincoln loop anymore?
Jul 14 2010 12:32AM
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yojimbo
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video of said wackflip?
Jul 14 2010 12:38AM
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ShredTheGnarnia
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want vid
Jul 14 2010 12:55AM
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TWoods
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every trailer from the last 2 years.
Jul 14 2010 1:38AM
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hanksy
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Can I just say, there is one straight double backflip in the new DOS trailer, but the two other dubs following it are true dub flat 7's.
Jul 14 2010 11:00AM
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BITS
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This is a double wackflip :)

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Nov 17 2010 9:57AM
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K.C.dia
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I feel like that was dub flat and not dub wack. A lot of people are doing their dub wacks a little flippier than that one
Nov 17 2010 10:18AM
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Twig
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See i dont mind double wackflips, but i really hate how no grab dub backs look, they spoiled lots of this years best parts for me..
Nov 17 2010 10:24AM
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Shlogan
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ya i noticed a lot of them in eye trip. ya its just a double back but it looks better, so im not complaining.
Nov 17 2010 1:22PM
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WillStart
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that was actually a legit dub flat, not a wackflip. i do agree with OP though. people should pay less attention to the fact that the skier is looking over their shoulder and more attention to the fact that their body is basically flipping completely backwards
Nov 17 2010 1:34PM
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powderwhore92
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there are plenty of wack flips but there are also a lot of actual dub flat 7s being thrown. wiley had a sick one in eye trip.
Nov 17 2010 3:07PM
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CKpolicy
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im not very well versed in dubs, but that was definately not just a backie tipped off axis...
Nov 17 2010 3:30PM
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powderwhore92
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yeah that was definitely a legitimate dub flat 7 IMO. his body actually moves past the backflip position and into flat.
Nov 17 2010 3:33PM
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LjayCinema
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Link to a legit double wack?

Nov 17 2010 4:54PM
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ECOASTSKIAAA2
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in the way i see it gkenworthy does a legit dub flat 7 in BC. couldnt find and vids but thats way sicker than the "wackflips"
Nov 17 2010 5:14PM
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Download-My-Apps
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a flatsin the back has to be FLAT for the first 180. A wackflip 180 = a flair IMO
Nov 17 2010 5:20PM
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-Marc-
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Wackflip and flatspin aren't really even that close the same thing. In a true flatspin, your feet don't go over your head, they are level, like TJ's bow and arrows he does, usually when you do it the rotation brings you round to 5, that's why true flat 3's are so uncommon, it's like how it's harder to cork 3 than cork 7, because you have to slow the rotation. Rodeo 5's your feet usually go over your head, alot like a wackflip with and extra 180. Wackflips are essentially rodeo 360's/ off axis backflip because your feet are over your head. Maybe that will clear things up?
Nov 17 2010 11:22PM
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titsLOL
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as far as flat spin vs. tweaked backflip I think it's just one of those things you have to accept as what it is. Like how bio 9s are usually called "rodeo 9s" these days. Just because people base it off how they set them, and as far as I see it the people who are throwing them can name they whatever they want since I'm just critiquing their videos.

Sure is a super popular/potentially played trick in this years movies though, probably cause of how much easier it is to set than a spin on bc stuff.
Nov 17 2010 11:31PM
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rickroller
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no that was a dub flat
Nov 18 2010 7:14PM
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TWoods
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That was pretty damn flat, and real sick.


I can't believe this was bumped, but whatever.

Just to re-iterate:

I don't have a problem with people doing wackflips.
I have a problem with people calling wackflips flatspins.
I feel like instead of just doing a ton of double wackflips to get shots of doubles in the BC, people should send some different tricks. Which some people do. The trend was just getting overwhelming.


I made this thread a while, and the movies this year have been pretty impressive so far.
Nov 18 2010 8:41PM
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mocrazy36
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i hate wack flips
Nov 18 2010 8:42PM
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Chompo.
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wack flips just seem to get boring and annoying... real flat threes though are sick
Nov 18 2010 8:50PM
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