There are two types of people in this world. Real dave fans and fake dave fans.
Real dave fans go for the music. I have gone to dave at spac for six fucking years. i am sixteen. My dad started to bring me to a band he enjoyed seeing live when i was TEN. therefore, because of my musical exposure as a young child, i enjoy going to see dave live and always will. and i highly doubt if i will go in the future without the company of my dad, or anything less than completely sober. real dave fans can go with the intent of getting their moneys worth in enjoyment of a good set put on by GREAT MUSICIANS. its not my favorite band, nor my first pick to go see live, but whenever they come into town i enjoy what the band has to offer. I dont need drugs, i dont need alcohol, i dont need to get laid afterwards to enjoy myself and have a good time at a dave matthews band concert. I go for the music. if you can do that (not saying you should, you can do whatever the fuck you want to; everyone partakes a little differently), you're a real dave fan. going for the music.
alright. fake dave fans go for all the wrong reasons. saratoga springs is a really cool city. spac is a really cool venue. they come in and shit on our wonderful city for a weekend. jacked and tanned, drunk out of their minds, and everything else you can say stereotypical about them, they're there for a reason. they may or may not enjoy the music, they may or may not remember the concert, they may or may not get their stomach pumped before even getting into the goddamn concert (actually happened to this chick i know), but they are there for a reason. i dont know why, i guess "you can only enjoy dave if you're smashed out of your mind". for everything anti-core that they bring however, they bring a shit-ton of money to spac. so in actuality, i can't complain. They keep spac alive.
now i know you like phish. and i know you hate dave. but really, people have got to stop being so intolerant of others and their music tastes. Thread title: "I hate you dave mathews!!!!" No. You do not hate dave matthews band. you hate the crowd he brings. as stated by mr. ben above me.
i went to phish at spac last summer. all in all a much chiller crowd. you walk through the parking lots and get heady beers and boss burritos instead of charred burgers and PBR. (almost) everyone is there for the music. for the band. supporting them. now i didn't like the show as much, maybe cause i wasn't stoned as all fuck, but i just didn't enjoy it as immensely as i could have. one reason for that: August 14th, 2007. and i guess June 5th, 2010. two best shows of my short life.