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Looks more like a rodeo

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pat-rickdaigle
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http://www.sbcskier.com/news_article?news_id=396

thats how i throw rodeos..or maybe i'm on acid again
Jun 6 2010 10:14PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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i guess from 90 a rodeo is more like a misty. or you have to rodeo to make it look misty. but i might be on acid as well
Jun 6 2010 10:18PM
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P_Steezy
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def a misty. he throws it over his right shoulder
Jun 6 2010 10:22PM
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Dustin.
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Rodeo and Misty aren't really even similar, I don't get how people get them mixed up. One is forward, one is backwards.
Jun 6 2010 10:30PM
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VCharette
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Negative, they are both forward. A flatspin would be backwards.
Jun 6 2010 11:13PM
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Smuffy
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nah son, rodeo is definitely backwards. but they are quite similar because some people set them on the border between forwards and backwards. a flatspin is simply a rodeo that does go inverted
Jun 6 2010 11:17PM
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VCharette
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What the fuck are you talking about....here we go again...
Jun 6 2010 11:19PM
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quixotic
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no... what the fuck are you talking about? rodeo's/flats are set backwards and to the side. only difference between rodeos and flats is that a flat your feet are equal with your head and a rodeo your feet go above your head.

And misty's and rodeo's are set completely different and look nothing alike.
Jun 6 2010 11:22PM
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quixotic
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oh, and that picture is a textbook misty 630 off.
Jun 6 2010 11:24PM
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VCharette
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Flatspin: You throw it almost like a backflip but more on the side

Rodeo: You throw it forward and if you spin left you spin around your right shoulder.

Misty: You throw it forward but more like a frontflip+ rotation

Agreed or not?
Jun 6 2010 11:27PM
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chazz.
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not
a rodeo is thrown by dropping your shoulder/"rolling" backwards.
theres nothing forward about it
Jun 6 2010 11:29PM
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nkmo.
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1:40-2:00 Flat 3 and Rodeo/Flat 5 set to the side and forward.

Jun 6 2010 11:29PM
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quixotic
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fuck... i just had a bunch of shit typed out, but i accidently left the page.

but... Not.

flatspin and rodeo are thrown almost the same, except a rodeo is inverted (feet go above the head) and a flat spin is flat (feet are equal with the head). they are thrown BACKWARDS and to the SIDE.

Here are video examples of the tricks.

rodeo 540




flat spin 540



misty 540 (thrown forward and to the side)


Jun 6 2010 11:37PM
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VCharette
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truth and this is a rodeo


shit embed won't work but at 0:40

https://newschoolers.com/web/content/viewvideo/id/341401/member_id/112094/

if not please someone tell me what's the trick at 0:40

Jun 6 2010 11:38PM
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nkmo.
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Haha, yeah I didn't mean the 3 was, just the 5. And that video up there ^ shows flat 5 set forward and to the side, body rotates backwards though.
Jun 6 2010 11:41PM
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quixotic
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40 is like a lincoln loop with a 180 at the end. not a true style rodeo, but some people call them rodeos.
Jun 6 2010 11:41PM
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VCharette
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and when I do them spinning 720 it's a lincoln 360?
Jun 6 2010 11:43PM
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VCharette
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To that I should add that we all need to improve our social lifes, it's kinda sad..... Altough I'm right.
Jun 6 2010 11:50PM
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quixotic
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negative. lets just agree to disgaree, even though i'm right.
Jun 6 2010 11:53PM
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jason...
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I'd call a rodeo sideways. A misty forwards and a flatspin backwards.
Jun 6 2010 11:53PM
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VCharette
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Agreed but the fact that you are spinning whilst doing a rodeo makes you spin forward/sideways kinda thing.
Jun 6 2010 11:56PM
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Eazy-S
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rodeo= backwards + up side down, flat= backwards + not upside down, misty = forwards + not upside down.... can't see the difference? start watching ski movies!
Jun 7 2010 5:18AM
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nickyp
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People throw them differently. Some people thrown rodeos more forwards, some throw them backwards. As long as it has the basic/key elements to make it a rodeo, then it is a rodeo.

Part of the beauty of the skiing is that no two peoples' tricks look identical.
Jun 7 2010 5:39AM
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RobertBB
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Geilo Easter Edit from Sindre Annweiler on Vimeo.

At 1:58 is that a flat or rodeo?
Jun 7 2010 11:52AM
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VCharette
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^That looks like a perfect example of a rodeo. And the guy definitly sets it going forward
Jun 7 2010 12:47PM
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FUUUCK
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no no no no no, flatspins aren't like backflips, you're mixing them up with rodeos.

People will call a slightly off axis backflip a flat 3, but flatspin 5+ aren't inverts.
Jun 7 2010 1:38PM
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VCharette
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Yeah that's true but you throw a flat 3 the same way that you throw a backflip and if you want it to be a TRUE flat 3 you just throw it less inverted and more to the side but still backwards....I care way too much.
Jun 7 2010 1:40PM
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skiierman
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the stupidity in this thread makes me want to gouge my fucking eyes out.

then i get happy again knowing that none of you coach. thanks the fucking lord.
Jun 7 2010 1:51PM
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VCharette
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^You're dumb I could teach someone how to do a rodeo or a flatspin, we might just not call the trick the same thing but I can guarantee you that I can do both a flatspin and a rodeo and whatever your definition of both are....I care way too much I'ma go play outside.
Jun 7 2010 1:56PM
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sklermang
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Jun 7 2010 2:27PM
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1337
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haha good idea.
this thread always gets too heated.
Jun 7 2010 2:28PM
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skiierman
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"Flatspin: You throw it almost like a backflip but more on the side

Rodeo: You throw it forward and if you spin left you spin around your right shoulder.

Misty: You throw it forward but more like a frontflip+ rotation"


uh huh, i'd be REALLY confident in someone that was saying crap like that.
Jun 7 2010 2:36PM
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Smuffy
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whoops my bad dude. that should say *doesn't do inverted. so yeah we agree on that.
Jun 7 2010 3:12PM
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fratskier69
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that my friend, is a bio, completely different


Jun 7 2010 3:46PM
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fratskier69
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and a misty you set FORWARD towards your knee.

this thread is fuckin dumb, this post is the answer
Jun 7 2010 3:50PM
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LAME.
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THIS IS NOT A FLATSPIN!
Jun 7 2010 4:22PM
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*illlywilly_is_G
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You've got misty right. But rodeo, you set it backwards. You can do rodeo and misty different ways. The way you described rodeo is just a really light inverted misty.


Jun 7 2010 5:24PM
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304NordMan
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 incorect. first vid is flatspin: he throws it backwards and is deff justa  tweaked backie.

second vid is somewhere between rodeo and misty: he throws it forward, but he does not invert.

last vid is deff misty.

flats are just tweaked backies. rodeo you throw to the side, not forward. misty you throw forward, hard

Jun 7 2010 5:40PM
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304NordMan
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and in the photo... somewhere between rodeo and misty. all misty/rodeo 450s are. when he first throws the flip off the box, he throws to the side, like a lincoln, but he does not go inverted. but to get back to 450 without landing on your side, you have start leading youyr head down, not around. so idk, somewhere in between.
Jun 7 2010 5:45PM
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Panchuk
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its a misty.
Jun 7 2010 5:46PM
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Uncle.Badness
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This badboy knows what he's talking about. He got dat flat 3 and rodeo 5 on point making biches come from all corners of the world.
Jun 7 2010 5:47PM
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Eazy-S
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Yeah! Perfect example! Click for larger image
Jun 8 2010 12:45PM
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Brentizzle
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I FUCKING HATE THESE THREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 8 2010 12:54PM
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dales
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rodeo: blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla

flat: blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla

misty: blablablablablablablablablablablablablablablabla
Jun 8 2010 2:39PM
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Dustin.
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That's not a rodeo...because he sets it forward....
Jun 8 2010 4:44PM
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Dustin.
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If you pause immediately on takeoff, he is already on his back....because that's how you throw a rodeo...back....
Jun 8 2010 4:45PM
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Brentizzle
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nobody seems to understand that a rodeo/flat spin is set backwards while spinning forwards. the motion of your body is as if you where to lean back but because you are spinning too, it looks like your setting forwards BUT YOU ARENT.

here is a little vid my friend made for a school project that can enforce what i am trying to say. its a rodeo trick tip however most of the rodeos are pretty flat (because i think they look better like that) but it is exactly what a true rodeo is. good day to you all

Rodeo 5 trick tips from Brent Callow on Vimeo.

Jun 8 2010 5:39PM
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Smuffy
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you could make the argument that a backflip is technically rotating forward because of your trajectory...

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Jun 8 2010 6:34PM
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tommycat
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rodeo... misty... flatspin... fuck, i usually just start spinning when i hit a jump and hope my skis hit snow when i land. i vote we go back to just calling them all helicopter spins.
Jun 9 2010 9:55AM
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B-Phelps
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RODEO and FLATSPIN are extremley similar. only diff is rodeo is inverted and flatspin is well, flat. notice how his feet and head are at the same height, making it flat. if his feet were a little above his head it would be rodeo.

At 1:40 Wallisch does a flat 3 and flat 5 back to back

Here's Andreas Hatveit explaining how do them:

http://skifilm.com/tv.php?id=331&channel=18

you can only go truly flat in 5's or greater because you need the extra rotation to bring your feet down, but off axis backflips are still called flatspins

Here: trick tip cult sticky: explains rodeo vs flat vs misty vs cork

https://newschoolers.com/web/members/cultforumthread/thread_id/236070/

Jun 9 2010 5:35PM
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