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Flat Spins?

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steez2plz
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I need to learn flats on a tramp but they just end up looking like rodeos. How do you throw them?
May 22 2010 3:19PM
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Milksteak
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A much less inverted back flip.  Drop your shoulder a little bit and then basically backflip. Shity directions sorry.
May 22 2010 3:29PM
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jimmer
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flat 3 = slightly off axis backflip
flat 5 = rodeo 5
flat 7 = rodeo 7
etc...
May 22 2010 3:39PM
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Lemuel
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Flat spin is not the same as rodeo. You go inverted in a rodeo, you do not in a flat spin.

To the OP, to do a flatspin on the tramp, instead of leaning back when you do it, try and bring you feet up and around in front of you. Don't let your feet go above your head. It's really hard to explain.
May 22 2010 4:02PM
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jimmer
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i, along with many others, was under the impression that they were pretty much the same thing, but that kids liked to throw in a japan grab and call them flatspins. i don't think the difference between flats and rodeos is noticable or significant, but i could be wrong.
May 22 2010 4:05PM
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leahey
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Flatspins are different, a rodeo makes you go inverted, head over heels. While in a flatspin you never go inverted, and it is much like a cork.
May 22 2010 4:56PM
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Cone-argh
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Flats= non inverted rodeos (flat 3's are the exception) but the difference is so hard to spot they are essentially the same.
May 22 2010 6:35PM
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Joe_Brogan
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a rodeo is a backflip and a 180.  so you are inverted (upside down)

in a flat spin you dont go upside down.

here's a video of a flat 540

May 22 2010 6:48PM
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tedmgee
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ur dumb?

May 22 2010 6:51PM
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james44
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flatspins and rodeos are essentialy the same trick but for a flatspin you throw slightly less flip
May 22 2010 8:14PM
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steez2plz
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I know what the difference is i just dont know how to throw them properly
May 22 2010 8:45PM
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Keith_M
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I huck them with a mentality of just going sideways, and i never actually do go just sideways, I always end up doing the flatspin, unless I focus on an object and rotate my body from that axis, then I go straight sideways.
That made no sense, sorry.
May 22 2010 9:05PM
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steez2plz
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nah i know what u mean
May 23 2010 2:35AM
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spliff.Life
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theyre alright, honestly hes right, the trick it feels closest to is a backflip, but drop flat, not back
the first few times its pretty blind, go big and float
May 23 2010 2:38AM
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assface
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its easier for me to set it more like a lincoln, it ends up as pretty flat
May 23 2010 2:42AM
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luc
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when do u guys finally realise, that a rodeo is not a flat? ...please watch joss team canada 2010 edit:

can't emb at this computer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtdzHqk0BkY

around 5:44 - 5:55 tj is showing good examples of a flatspin! and i hope u realize that a rodeo is something different! (or justin at 2:33)

and to those guys who think a kangarou flip is a double flat watch the same edit (team canada) at 6:33, justin is doing a doulbe flatspin, and this is not a kangflip!

THIS IS THE WAY I SEE IT.....maybe i'm wrong...but then proof it with a vid example!
May 23 2010 6:19AM
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ChillTeenDad420
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I've tried teaching so many people how to flat on tramps... its really hard to explain. my best advice is to just visualize your feet going diagonally up, like a rodeo, and then rotating flat for the remainder of the rotation. really just visualize it before you try it.
May 23 2010 1:22PM
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fratskier69
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yeah, when i do them, i think set rodeo, but go for a critical brab right away, it helps bring your shoulder forward
May 23 2010 1:56PM
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james44
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umm on trampoline its hard to explain but on skis if im doing a rodeo i do it alot more like a lincoln loop cuase that puts me upsidown but if i want to do a flat i do the same sort of motion but i dont really pop, i just sort of fall to the side.

super old picture but i think the fist 2 frames show what im talking about

Click for larger image

and yea haha it was a faceplant
May 24 2010 6:40AM
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Fischer-Addicted
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Your head does not go below your feet while in air for it to be a true flatspin. That's really tricky on a trampoline.
May 24 2010 7:03AM
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nickmcnutt
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no, a flat 3 follows the same rules as any other flatspin. once your feet are higher in the air than your head, it becomes a rodeo. andy mahre is one of the only people I can remember seeing do a true flat 3, over his back the whole way (watch idea). not like this crooked backflip japan everyone is doing these days. that's a rodeo 3, because it's set like a 360 and a backflip in one (not a "back-full") more like a cork 3 but more flipped.
May 24 2010 10:33AM
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hjb
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Dude, pause that shot at 6 sec.  Feet are totally over his head.
May 24 2010 10:48AM
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ChadThundercock
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It always looked and felt to me like it was a lincoln-rodeo hybrid
May 24 2010 3:41PM
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gregorio
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when people say inverted is when your feet are over your head means that they are directly over your head and you are upside down in the air, like when you are half way through a backflip
May 24 2010 4:02PM
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Alex_G
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do rodeos a ton but wait a little bit longer to flip and you will go flat. wait till about 90 and then set the flip
May 24 2010 4:29PM
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jimmer
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and that never happens in rodeos, so there goes his argument by your logic.
May 24 2010 6:50PM
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Beez
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when i do flats on the trampoline i just like to grab my feet and just follow my feet around once u get that u just feel it
May 24 2010 7:44PM
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Juice.Doctor
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try and throw a lil less back... +k
May 24 2010 8:14PM
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1337
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set your spin like doing a pencil spin, not trying to set an invert
kick your right leg up as you spin and drop your right shoulder
tuck up a bit, grab safety
bring it around


just learned them today, so stoked
May 24 2010 8:21PM
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Davy.Crockett
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thats how my brother learned them, by accident. he was throwing lincolns and dropped his shoulder in a weird way and ended up doing a flat.
May 24 2010 8:27PM
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CrunkNugget
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seymour, word
May 25 2010 10:42PM
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Dustin.
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It's actually a pretty easy trick if you can already rodeo. People like T-Wall and TJ Schiller do them well because they make the two tricks look different. Some people do the exact same trick and just don't go inverted, which in my opinion is pretty lame.

I started trying flats the way T-Wall does them and I think they look better and are way more fun and comfortable. Try taking of similar to a rodeo, but think about looking around your leading shoulder as long as possible to prevent rolling onto your back. That's what helped me.
May 25 2010 11:01PM
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Fischer-Addicted
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That is a perfect flatspin, feet do not go above your head.
May 25 2010 11:43PM
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K.C.Deane
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It looks like your throwing your shoulder forward on that 5. Makes me say rodeo.
May 26 2010 3:04AM
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