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Looking into the U of U?

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Captain_Slow
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I'm looking to go into a college with a teaching(elementary education) program and is also located near sick ski mountains. I live in NY and have a ~92 average and am gonna do pretty good on the ACT. The University of Utah has an educational program, but I don't think it's one of their main one's (as long as I can major in it, I'm happy).
I just have a couple questions before I seriously consider the U, any help will be great!;

1. Is it a difficult college to get into? If not, is it because its not a great school, academically)

2. I won't be able to bring a car..so are the mountains far away by public transportation? It says 20-40 miles away are snowbird/park city/etc. but I don't really know for sure.

3. Should I be looking into different colleges in Utah? (that have a major in education, specifically elementary)

4. Would it be best to live on campus? Its 30k for out of state students, which is a lot!

5. Are season passes expensive? I think I read something about college season passes at around 600?

Thanks for any info, I'm really looking forward to getting into a college that is located near great ski mountains and is also good academically speaking. I live in NY and used to be a parkrat, but after a recent trip to CO for a week, started appreciating pow skiing, and now I would do anything to go to college and ski at great mountains at the same time!

Apr 9 2010 7:05PM
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Utard
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As for #2, Snowbird, Alta, Brighton, and Solitude all have ski buses run by the local public transportation agency (UTA) and they're free if you have a season pass to any of those resorts.
Apr 9 2010 10:49PM
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TWoods
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. 1. it's not a GREAT school, but it's a GOOD school.

2. You will for sure meet friends and get rides.

3. Fuck all other colleges in Utah. They are either lame, or too far from any sort of decent skiing.

4. It's not that much, unless it's changed. Living on campus is an illlll way to meet people. but, it's cheaper to live off campus if you can live frugally.

5. PC - 425 (?), Canyons - 375, Alta 599, Snowbird 650 (?)

I wouldn't recommend going anywhere besides those places.

Apr 10 2010 12:44AM
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R.Fahey
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1) It's easy to get into.  I had like a 3.2 GPA and did average on the ACT and SAT.  Made it in no problem. 
2) and 4) Not having a car isn't a big deal, especially if you live in the dorms which I highly recommend for your first year.  you'll be more inclined to go to class, and you'll legit meet 100 people that are into the same shit as you.  And since you'll all live near each other finding rides to the mountain is so easy. 

3) Don't look at other colleges, except maybe Westminster, but it's private and way more expensive.   

5) season passes aren't bad.  they're not colorado cheap, but then again it actually snows here. 

And I'm not sure where you're seeing 30K for tuition/housing, but if it's true it went up for sure.  For my freshman year it was like 8K a semester I think.  And the tightest thing about the U is that you get instate tuition after just a year.  So as soon as you get here open a bank account, then at the end of the year register to vote and get a UTah driver's license and you'll get tuition for 3 grand or less for the rest of your like.  so ill.
Apr 10 2010 11:37AM
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Captain_Slow
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Thanks to all that replied
Ive been looking at how to be considered a resident of Utah, and it says that I need to be in Utah for at least 12 months, and show proof that I intend to stay their for a while, like a Utah ID and voting application. The Utah ID and voting application are easy, whats annoying is having to be at Utah for a year, meaning I would have to pay the full non-resident tuition, which comes to like 30k.. Ah well, at least Ill only have to pay that much for 1 year.
Apr 11 2010 7:31PM
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Captain_Slow
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One more ques. b4 i sleep, How are the people in the U... I read that there are a lot of mormonszzzz? (dont even know if thats how u spell it...) Are they chill or will they shoot me if i dont convert or what? Im sure there are a crap load of skiers there, and i would rather dorm with a skier than a religious person(no offense to any1 out there)
Apr 11 2010 10:57PM
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TWoods
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Mostly, you will notice that a lot of people act just a little different. It's not bad, they are all nice people for the most part, and they REALLY aren't that different. People make a big deal about it, but it's seriously not. i have a LOT of mormon friends, and many of them I didn't even know were mormon for quite some time.

Yea, there's some religious wack jobs, but there's wack jobs of one sort or another everywhere. It's also MARGINALLY harder to get alcohol / the beer tastes a little watered down (but isn't nearly as different as people claim alcohol content wise). Besides that, seriously don't sweat the mormon factor.
Apr 11 2010 11:25PM
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InfernoHits
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mormons are just like anyone else. Most you would never even know and the ones you do know turn out being the nicest people ever. They arent going door to door trying to convert you or anything intrusive, they just do their own thing.

i feel that the mormon thing keeps a lot out of utah, but our laws are pretty much the same as colorado and a few other states. 3.2 beer sold in grocery stores, get real shit at liquor stores. Only difference is CO has cold 30s in their liquor stores.

and if you are questioning the U or want other options hit me up, I went to westminster for 3 yrs.
Apr 12 2010 12:06PM
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Captain_Slow
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alright thx, i dont mind ppl that are real religious , i jus dont want them to be rooming with a guy who is a religious freak.. seems like ill be trying to apply there in the beginning of senior year, apply for financial aid, loans, and whatever else i gotta do. Im guessing im gonna get around a 10-11 out of 16 on the SAT and a little more than average on the ACT. My cumulative average is a 90.6, not too sure what that comes to be GPA wise... When I'm there ill register to vote and get a Utah ID , which should be no problem, and obviously live there for a year on-campus to make sure I go to classes and "settle in". Following year ill hopefully be considered a resident and pay a lot less tuition and board. All while shredding up some Utah poww!
Apr 12 2010 2:45PM
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TWoods
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well, that actually does happen sometimes. haha.
Apr 12 2010 4:06PM
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jKutcher
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other religions do the same thing
Apr 12 2010 6:03PM
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McLeod
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hmm i havent noticed too many catholics going door to door in suits telling me brainwashing stories about how black people were sinners so god made the black and then they are being converted now so they can be saved... but interesting point none the less
Apr 12 2010 6:10PM
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Captain_Slow
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thats some deep shit, i might have to say im a fan of the devil himself
Apr 12 2010 8:55PM
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TWoods
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yea, some of them.
Apr 12 2010 9:25PM
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jKutcher
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hahah what a great story..

but uhmmm ever heard of the Jahovas Witness?
Apr 12 2010 9:38PM
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jKutcher
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Jehova*
Apr 12 2010 9:40PM
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titsLOL
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I still pay out of state and can promise you it will not be 30k, unless they are charging 15k/yr for the dorms because I pay around 15k for out of state tuition. Which is epic considering that in state at umass, where I used to go, was 16k and probably more now.
Apr 12 2010 9:41PM
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Captain_Slow
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Quoting collegedata.com;

Cost of AttendanceIn-state: $18,286
Out-of-state: $30,676

Tuition and Fees
In-state: $5,746
Out-of-state: $18,136
Room and Board
$6,240
Books and Supplies
$1,080
Other Expenses
$5,220

They include "other expenses" as transportation, which they put at ~1k??! i dont think im spendin a thousand buckss on the bus. so itll prob come to 20ish the 1st year, then ill try my best to become an instate

Apr 12 2010 10:20PM
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McLeod
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Jehovah's** Witnesses, and yes I have heard of this religious group you speak of. unfortunately, LDS missionaries are far more numerous than their Jehovah counterparts with the LDS church having a membership of 15 million and Jehovah's Witnesses having 7 million members. I see mormon missionaries very regularly but have only encountered a Jehovah maybe once in my life. so while other churches have missionaries I would say that the impact and visual numbers of LDS missionaries exceed that of any other church. imo of course.

and for that story:

http://www.mrm.org/curse-of-cain
Apr 12 2010 10:40PM
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eheath
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Well, its close, id say its roughly 23-25k for a year in the dorms now.

Out of state and living in a house i spend roughly a total of 15,000-16,000/yr (thats with rent food gas book and tuition) i pay about 3000 a semester for school + 1000 for books and then rent is anywhere from 300-400 a month + 50 bucks for utils and if you spend more than 200 bucks on food in a month gtfo and then 50-100 bucks in gas (in the winter).

Id say you save anywhere from 2000-4000 bucks a year living off campus, but i will contradict my money statement and recommend you live in the dorms your first year.
Apr 13 2010 12:04AM
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Captain_Slow
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i was thinkin of stayin in the dorms 1st yr then lookin into off-campus next yr when i get to pay instate tuition
Apr 13 2010 10:22AM
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bumblebeetuna
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I believe the U requires you to be a resident by june 1 to qualify for instate tuition, meaning you would have to move in way early during the summer
Apr 13 2010 2:08PM
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Captain_Slow
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O wow so i would actually have to pay for 2 years of nonresident tuition/board and 2 years of resident/board?.. that suckss
Apr 13 2010 6:38PM
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Captain_Slow
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Residency Application and Certification Form Deadlines Summer Term April 15 Fall Semester July 1 Spring Semester December 1

Would I be able to pay for full tuition freshman year during the fall semester, then the year after that apply for residency and SPring semester? That way I wouldn't have to pay for another year of non-residency? Or do you have to go back to school the same time every year?

Apr 13 2010 7:45PM
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Captain_Slow
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Its really annoying how if every1 asks me what college i plan on applying for, I say somewhere out West like Utah, andthey say dont apply to places like there because there isnt a lot of partying, smoking, or drinking.... im lovin how ppl dont care about acedemics or anything like that, but only care about smoking, partying, etc.. I would rather ski than party, not gonna lie
Apr 14 2010 6:55PM
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bumblebeetuna
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hmmm. I haven't even thought of that. I might have to look into this for myself.
Apr 15 2010 1:06AM
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Captain_Slow
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ill call the admission office when i get home from school, hopefully they can fully explain what i can do to get residency after the 1st year.

I was also lookin at schools in Vermont/Colorado, but they were all either far away from mountains, not good schools, or 30k a year. looks like U of U is my best choice!

Apr 15 2010 12:20PM
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