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dez22
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when i was watching the credits and the music was going by a noticed a song by rage against the machine but i havent heard the rage song anywhere in the movie is there some kind of secret?
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May 11 2002 12:05AM
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tfeiss
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shane szocs part has a rage song
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May 11 2002 12:05AM
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dez22
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no, thats southtown by pod
also i have tha dvd does that affect anything
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May 11 2002 12:15AM
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gravteck
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dude that's rage... that stupid song where they sing 'know your enemy' blah blah blah blah blah.
May 11 2002 12:22AM
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dez22
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1) rage is not stupid they r a great band
2) on dvd its southtown by pod and on the vhs its rage

just asked sum1
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May 11 2002 12:29AM
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mtw
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They messed up with the credits (something I'm getting tired of with ski films). There is no RATM song.
May 11 2002 12:29AM
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gravteck
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Rage is retarded, I remember reading an interview where they refused to respond to the question 'Would you give up your fame and fortune to live under a communist state?' or some garbage question. They've benefited from the capitalist society that they critcize.
May 11 2002 12:34AM
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gravteck
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Rage is retarded, I remember reading an interview where they refused to respond to the question 'Would you give up your fame and fortune to live under a communist state?' or some garbage question. They've benefited from the capitalist society that they critcize.
May 11 2002 12:34AM
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yetirolfe
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its rage
May 11 2002 1:01AM
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Drail
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ok, you guys are fuckin' tools. as dez just pointed out (kinda sad when you gotta answer your own question and still have people fight over it because they are too retarded to just listen instead of talk) shane szocs segment has both pod AND rage. the dvd version has pod, and the vhs version has rage.

so seriously - all of you guys gotta get the g-strings out of your asses and listen for once.

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May 11 2002 2:10AM
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PowderPrincess
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yeah the song is 'Know your enemy' in Shane's part... its a good song.. on my ski mix actually.
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May 11 2002 2:21AM
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mtw
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They should have kep Rage on the DVD version. I don't know the song, but I don't really like POD.
May 11 2002 3:04AM
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fakiedropdude
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and it´s NOT a stupid song. listen to the lyrics god damn it!


May 11 2002 7:20AM
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dez22
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'They've benefited from the capitalist society that they critcize.'

ur an idiot thats all i can say

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May 11 2002 11:57AM
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yeti
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who fucking cares about their stupid political agendas or what they claim to promote in their music. It doesn't matter if they don't practice what they are singing about...but it's just fucking music!

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May 11 2002 12:02PM
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yeti
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and to continue my post...do you guys have something against necro, and cage, and ill bill and all those guys who spit about tearin' people up and the like? i didn't think so because IT'S JUST MUSIC!

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May 11 2002 12:03PM
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andyrightcoast
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May 11 2002 1:55PM
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gravteck
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Why the hell am I an idiot?? You quoted me but you didn't explain why that statement makes me an idiot.

And Democracy does work, compare it to the socialist and communist regimes of the past. The united states has been the world's leading industrial power since the 1870's and the only time a socialist or communist power even came close was when Stalin instituted his five year plans, but the USSR still lagged behind both England and America. Go take a look at Eastern European governments versus the Western model, and prove that the Eastern model is more effective.
May 11 2002 4:30PM
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dez22
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cuz do you think that communism is all that they talk about?? uh no...

and the democracy doesnt work is a quote from the simpsons
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May 11 2002 4:36PM
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gravteck
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I know it's not ALL they talk about, but it is a theme in their music.
May 11 2002 4:41PM
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Did you guys also notice that 'strength' by swolen Members is actually Horrified nights? that or Im missing something...
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May 11 2002 6:03PM
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skodeo7
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yeah I noticed that, ski film companies absolutely dont know shit about music
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May 11 2002 7:00PM
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gravteck
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Well at least it's a good movie lol.
May 11 2002 7:26PM
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Freestyla_01
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yeah... they sure dont know shit about music...
thats why as soon as youre finished watching the newest PBP or MSP film, you go straight to the internet to download every song in the movie.
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May 11 2002 7:48PM
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PocketRocket
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ski vid companies can never get the music right....it's either the right band, wrong song, or band/song names switched, or just way off on all accounts
May 11 2002 8:39PM
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BigPerm
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its rage, know your enemy is the name of it, it is during shanes part. later



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May 11 2002 8:54PM
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castlerock
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on the terms of 'political trashing' bands, i prefere Pennywise............ way better than Rage in my opinion

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May 12 2002 7:42PM
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gravteck
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Yea Pennywise is sweet, been listening to them since the 7th grade. Their political line is more of a anarchist/socialist utopia sort of thing (fyi: not bombs and everyone kill eachother anarchy)


May 12 2002 7:59PM
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Dspin900
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poor boyz is retarded w/ their credits....they say Face to Face - blind twice, when the second one is Dont Change...they mess up in some other places too
May 12 2002 9:59PM
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stephen_beast
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and in the bonus section they spell interview wrong in jf's section, my goodness they should hire me as an editor!
May 13 2002 12:13AM
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johnnypsunami
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its like a mix between POD and Rage.... cause if you download whos your enemy its sort of the same
May 13 2002 4:54PM
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dspin7x
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while i dont know very much about Rage i have to agree with Gravtec here. Im not saying rage does or doesnt preach about communism or whatever but yeti just because its JUST MUSIC doesnt make it any better. Its pretty pathetic of any band or person to preach or promote one thing then turn around and do another even if it is JUST MUSIC. Just because its just music doesnt make it any better for them to be hypocritcal id just loose more respect for a band like that. Now jump all over and tear me apart as usual..
May 13 2002 6:48PM
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fakiedropdude
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OK.

first gravteck, learn the difference between socialism and communism because it´s huge and you seem really ignorant when you talk about them as the same ideology. and is not as simple as just comparing the ideolgy and the success at producing at a certain time, there are so many other factors.

second, capitalism creates a more productive society yes, who said anything else? a socialist society however creates a more fair society with welfare for all and rising the average living-standard and that is the point of it, not being as productive as possible.

and how did(do?) rage against the machine not live by what they said?
they organized protests(got aressted), donated money to charity and brought several important political issues to the surface and has helped people and causes in so many ways!

people should not speak of what they do not know.
May 13 2002 7:29PM
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fakiedropdude
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and it isn´t JUST music if you see what they have accomplished.
everything is political, whether you want it to be or not.

May 13 2002 7:32PM
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yeti
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okay, i am going to say this very clearly so everyone understands:

EVERYONE IN ENTERTAINMENT IS FAKE!

The major recordings labels create the majority of what you hear on the radio and see on television. I am not saying that it's impossible for there to be altruistic artists who stick to their morals no matter what...but those people you never hear of because they have no fucking money because they are unwilling to take the RIAA's giant dildo up their asses and sign a contract.

It's sad that a simple question about music can turn in to an argument filled with anti-democratic rhetoric and insults being vollied about as if anyone actually gave a shit whether or not a band believes that the mongol extermination is a bad thing. I for one could care less about a band's political agenda as it's not going to have any fucking effect on me, nor is a bands reluctance to give up their fame and fortune to support some stupid cause that will most likely never see victory.

Everyone needs to sit back and just listen to some white noise or something and get their heads out of their asses.

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May 13 2002 8:34PM
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Shane_McWannabe
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Democracy just doesn't work. I think thats off the Simpsons.
May 13 2002 8:54PM
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therealjerk
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AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE FUCKING COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM BLAH BLAH BULLSHIT. THE POSTS WERE INTERESTING A MONTH AGO BUT I CANT KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT ONLINE (on my free time) AND AT SCHOOL. we just finished our communist unit. if were going to have debates on this stuff, lets do it in Non-Ski Gabber and lets talk about apartheid and shit. i could use some of the view points for some good in class discussion cause were on S. Africa now. aarggghh, whatever

CO represent!!!

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May 13 2002 11:42PM
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fakiedropdude
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and how exactly did not ratm live by their morals?
they used the system to fight it.
things are not as simple as you think. music doesn´t have to be just music. and ratm made it a political tool and no matter how much you refuse to see that, it is a fact that they did change a lot and 'enlightened' a lot of people.

anyway communism sucks.

May 14 2002 6:34AM
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gravteck
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fakie: I never said the ideology behind the two systems were the same, I was referring to both system's attempt at nationalization and control factor over industry as to bolster industrial output. Yea no shit they're different, the socialist state of today is different from the ones that had risen during the interwar period. There's no point going into detail about it, but I can assure you I'm not ignorant since I aced both my Ap European History and Comparative Gov't and Politics subjects.
May 14 2002 5:18PM
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fakiedropdude
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OK. sorry if i was harsh, it´s just that a lot of people actually doesn´t know there is a differnece.
May 15 2002 9:31AM
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gravteck
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It's ok, I probably snapped because I just took the ap test and went crazy from cramming, sorry lol.
May 15 2002 3:21PM
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