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Resorts overdoing urban rails setups?

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Midwestjibski
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I enjoy some nice urban set up park rails.  They give the rail more challenge and are very fun to hit.  However, I have noticed that some resorts this year have overdone it on the urban set ups.  They are cool and all, but I still like traditional style rails/boxes.  For example, I went to Park city and Brighton on a utah ski trip a few weeks ago.  At park city, every single long rail was urban set up, which I don't mind hitting, but I like doing tricks on normal rails better.  At Brighton there was not one 1 flat rail or flat box with a normal lip.  Every single feature was urban.  Sure I had fun hitting all of them.  But I wanted normal rails too.  Even in Michigan this trend is starting.  I think I have illustrated my point.  So Newschoolers what do you think?  Have resorts overdone it on urban rails this year?
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Mar 4 2010 10:12PM
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Zent33zy
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not really on the eastcoast
Mar 4 2010 10:14PM
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J-Evs
Posts: 6387 - Karma: 1,615
the mountains on the east ive been skiing lately have actually had their lips on urban. some like it some dont
some overdo it. they should mix it up

Mar 4 2010 10:16PM
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freshlyDIPPED
Posts: 1160 - Karma: 121
why would you complain about this...
Mar 4 2010 10:19PM
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BrownEyeIn
Posts: 878 - Karma: 456
ride ons are played dude.
Mar 4 2010 10:20PM
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Common_Cents
Posts: 455 - Karma: 13
I Think considering boxes and rails take up little space, little snow and little upkeep, compared to jumps, its fine that resorts do that. Unless they took out a few jumps just for rails i dont see a problem here
Mar 4 2010 10:22PM
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skithesprings
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there's a perfect mix at 7 springs.
Mar 4 2010 10:26PM
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Dan-Man
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urban seperates the men from the boys.

i disagree. urban is teh tits.

Mar 4 2010 10:26PM
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J-Evs
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not at all at some mountains on the east
Mar 4 2010 10:28PM
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Style+eeze
Posts: 6901 - Karma: 551
I like both. Whistler has some street style lips onto flat rails and boxes that I really enjoy, and so does my local mountain snoqualmie pass, wa. But, they both have other jib features with "normal" lips on. A variety is defintely nice.
Mar 5 2010 12:00AM
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TWoods
Posts: 10014 - Karma: 8,385
Brighton's park crew is too lazy to build anything else. Plus on some of those runs, they pull the boxes and rails out of the ground every night and groom it, so they don't build anything to hop on with.
Mar 5 2010 12:04AM
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HeathR
Posts: 4357 - Karma: 1,379
I feel like 80 percent of features that start with a down should be urban and 80 percent that start flat or up should be normal.
Mar 5 2010 12:12AM
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wintersway
Posts: 5115 - Karma: 128
i would love to have some normal setup boxes and rails at sugarbush but every time they put a lip in front of a feature, they make it so low that i end up hitting it urban style anyway. i want to learn 270 on and i can never just go for it on an urban down rail.
Mar 5 2010 12:20AM
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alex.bgk.
Posts: 607 - Karma: 74
id say all downs should be urban, but agree with the rest
Mar 5 2010 12:21AM
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Malcolm
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yeah i think so too. smuggs set up their dfd ride on and its so fucking lame. the mountain near my home though has every single feature set up street
Mar 5 2010 12:26AM
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FUUUCK
Posts: 18426 - Karma: 4,888
it's the evolution of parks
Mar 5 2010 12:39AM
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ike.
Posts: 2292 - Karma: 93
i kinda agree. i love up rails and boxes a ton!!! and a lot of places arent doin that so much. you're acttually pretty accurate with that statement
Mar 5 2010 12:41AM
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skiierman
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brighton is only for heshers. park city is dope.
Mar 5 2010 1:09AM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
yeah big sky has like 99% urban style rails, its annoying. i like them as much as the next guy, but some variety would be nice.

and they have urban style flat rails, which are just annoyin
Mar 5 2010 1:12AM
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bibs_skibum
Posts: 4462 - Karma: 449
i hated those urban flats sooo much in the beginning but now they are growing on to me. I think they should leave one of them urban on, but make it so you could urban on from both sides and then make the other into a cannon :)
Mar 5 2010 1:24AM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
they had a canon sorta last year and it sucked, id rather have just a regular on flat rail, perfect for learning stuff.


honestly they made everything TOO technical this year..
Mar 5 2010 1:28AM
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ECfreeski3
Posts: 12019 - Karma: 125
yeah urban style onto flat rails is stupid. like someone in this thread said, i like when most are set up urban style but certain rails (up rails, flatdowns sometimes, a frames etc) need a nice straight on lip so you can hit it fast and take some speed out of it
Mar 5 2010 2:01AM
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parkcrewsoldier
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i think more urban is good..down rails should be urban.. the worst is when you have a single barrel down that has a gap  and is almost lower than the lip (yes i have seen such a set up)...
Mar 5 2010 3:15AM
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Gnarshred
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Too much urban at keystone. But I suck at skiing too...
Mar 5 2010 4:14AM
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Lemuel
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All down should be urban.  Everything else should be normal.  My mountain set up our flat rail so it was urban.  That is the dumbest shit I have ever seen.  Butternut has everything urban, which is kinda cool, but I only like urban onto down rails and flat boxes for some reason.  For flat rails, it should never be urban.
Mar 5 2010 9:08AM
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Pmoore
Posts: 1802 - Karma: 1,246
Everything at Keystone is urban. But its all great. Many different heights and stuff so there is no need for regular ons. They kinda suck now that i am used to urban.
Mar 5 2010 9:31AM
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JRullo
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I really like urban set up rails, they make it a little harder, and more fun for sure....  But i think when they start to set up boxes, and flat rails urban its over doing it and super annoying.
Mar 5 2010 9:35AM
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1337
Posts: 31038 - Karma: 29,003
it's fun on some but not on all of them, a ride on can be as fun as an urban on
Mar 5 2010 10:10AM
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travis_halverson
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my theory is that every snowboarder likes to dream he is hitting a handrail every time he goes to the park.  Even though they have never and probably wont ever hit one in their lives. 
Mar 5 2010 10:35AM
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10...nuffsaid
Posts: 308 - Karma: 54
personally, if the hit is big enough i don't really care if it be street...its super annoying when you have a flat box on level ground and they give you a hit that's like an inch tall and you literally have to hop like a foot into the air on your own power.
Mar 5 2010 10:37AM
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Adrian_
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i was actually going to bring that up. i wish bnut made some better lips to the flat boxes/rails. last time i was there they just had a flatbox chillin on the ground with no lip
Mar 5 2010 10:38AM
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skiierman
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well hey a lotta skiers do that as well.
Mar 5 2010 3:57PM
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BootySpunk.
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All down rails should be urban on because they are way more fun that way and all flat rails should be not urban on because they are way more fun that way.

IMO of course.
Mar 5 2010 4:11PM
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Midwestjibski
Posts: 1676 - Karma: 77
I agree with this.
Mar 5 2010 4:16PM
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dr.awkward
Posts: 1461 - Karma: 26
flat urbans are tight!

olleing or nollie lipsliding onto a rail or box is a rad feeling. but I wouldn't want all my rails like that..
Mar 5 2010 4:20PM
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dr.awkward
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i mean flat rails with no massive jump on
Mar 5 2010 4:21PM
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Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,398
this

i think any down rail/box feels strange if its not urban, but flat stuff feels strange if its not a normal lip
Mar 5 2010 4:23PM
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BootySpunk.
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I also hate flat rails with like a booter onto them that shoots you half way down the rail. A lip onto a flat rail has to make you smoothly go onto the rail and not just kick you halfway down the thing...so annoying.
Mar 5 2010 4:30PM
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zagfan5
Posts: 2608 - Karma: 144
urbans keep the gapers out
Mar 5 2010 10:19PM
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heFF
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the more urban setup rails in the park the better
Mar 5 2010 10:34PM
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skiseemore
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flat takeoffs are the best i hate cheese wedges to flat rails
Mar 5 2010 11:17PM
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Peter.
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i agree, anything that begins with a down should be set up urban, except maybe a mellow down box or something like that. flat rails/boxes should be set up normal
Mar 5 2010 11:24PM
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Phil.Green
Posts: 718 - Karma: 96
there's some ride ons in the baby park
Mar 5 2010 11:27PM
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Brock.
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YES, very true.

i think anything that isnt flat should be set up urban. its just better...
Mar 5 2010 11:28PM
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Brock.
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lemme re phrase that...

anything that is set up on a slight downwards angle should be set up urban style
Mar 6 2010 12:46AM
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beermuscles
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+k springs is killlllling it this year
Mar 6 2010 12:53AM
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Whifazoo
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pano has this, they have a 45 foot flat bar with a massive booter on to it (just about the same size as the smaller larges) and the first time my buddie hit it he cleared about 3/4 of the rail. they mellowed out the lip quite a bit now but in order to have enough speed to clean it you have to suck up the jump almost . kinda sketch. and personally i like the urban kinda thing with almost anything. flat rails can be fun with a really mellow urban kinda set up. thats just me tho. and just about every box should be ride on (unless its really steep down)
Mar 6 2010 1:22AM
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sick-as-aids
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breck annoyed me for the fact they didnt have any flat boxes apart from that one big one.... sure the other features are fun to play on, but sometimes a nice flat box is cool to learn new shit i guess.....

to op, i dont like ride on boxes at all, but yeah all urbans would get anoying, except for downs, if downs arnt urban they gay as fuck
Mar 6 2010 1:52AM
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doyle.
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yes why?
Mar 6 2010 1:58AM
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