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Help on cork 7

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RiplyRipper
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Alright i've been trying, but I can't seem to get my feet under me. Any advice would be great.

Thanks
Feb 24 2010 4:14PM
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Brock.
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it looks like you are throwing it a little too hard because i though you were going for 9 in the first vid.

i would say just try and relax your rotation... also it helps if you spot when you are coming around past 3 and then just look to your side to finish off the spin instead of having your eyes glued to the knuckle for like 90% of the spin. that should help even you out abit.
Feb 24 2010 5:05PM
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-_-Johnny-_-
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Go a bit bigger, try corking less (just drop your left shoulder slightly as you set your spin), focus on spotting your landing.

Seems like you huck it and sort of lose control. Try less cork, more air and a grab. Grab is reeally key to stability and if you go bigger you'll have more time in the air to figure shit out haha. Maybe try them off of the bigger kicker to the right.

And less cork, gotta say it again. or don't set the cork so "hard".. shit this stuff is hard to explain.. feel like I didn't make any sense at all haha

Anyways, good luck! just keep trying until you get them, they're sickterlicious once you finally land them
Feb 24 2010 5:07PM
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dr.awkward
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your upper body and your lower body are disconnected. Try and get your hips rotating with your shoulders, instead having to fight them around. Also, don't thrown your head down right off the lip. Try and keep your chin up when you throw the trick.
Feb 24 2010 5:40PM
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Dustin.
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Go bigger, try not to huck it into cork so hard, and spot your landing!
Feb 24 2010 5:54PM
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EC-Skier
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dont throw it as hard and hit the bigger jump
Feb 24 2010 5:55PM
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dylansiggers
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at about 540 try and stand up more and keep your head up, it will help you come around to your feet
Feb 24 2010 5:56PM
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ALLIANCE_1
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yo dude in the second one you have the right idea, but you are not being patient on the take off. this is why your landing backseat.

when you approach the jump remember to get a good pop off the jump, drop your shoulder, then go in to the spin.

dont just spin off the jump other wise your shoulder will go to far foward and you will land backseat like what your doing.


NOW GO SHRED!!!
Feb 24 2010 6:41PM
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jasontheredhead
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two words

bigger jump

Feb 24 2010 6:44PM
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RiplyRipper
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Thanks for the help everyone
Feb 24 2010 8:47PM
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Randy_Quench
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honestly, i would just go for 9.. your rotation will bring you around more.
Feb 24 2010 8:51PM
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i0z
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how big do recommend the jump to be to do corks off of?
Feb 24 2010 8:52PM
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i0z
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thanks man
Feb 26 2010 2:10PM
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Mr.Huck
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I got a stupid question now.  Is there a difference between what a cork with feet going back to front vs front to back?  In other words, a more corked version of a misty 7 vs what I have always considered a cork which is where you throw your feet back and in the direction of either shoulder.  That probably makes no sense. 
Feb 26 2010 6:46PM
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-_-Johnny-_-
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Yeah, forwards is called a bio. CR used to be the best at them
Feb 26 2010 8:11PM
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Commonwealth
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Yeah, use that lip on skier's right for sure. That could help.
Feb 26 2010 8:19PM
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Edward.
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i think youre dropping your shoulder a bit too much. i think youre setting yourself up for a different cork. so next time you try it just set your spin so you dont go as much off axis.
Feb 26 2010 8:20PM
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Mr.Huck
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Thanks, so OP is throwing a bio 7 then.  Is that right? 
Feb 26 2010 9:25PM
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alex.bgk.
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nah hes super corked.. bio is when your body is forward and feet are behind you, uphill
Feb 26 2010 9:31PM
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reBlocke
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Na, he's definitely going for a cork- although I see why you would call it a bio.  On the lip he is collapsing forward, which is big part of his problem.

OP- if you pause the video right when you're going off the lip, you'll notice that you're pretty bent forward.  I had the same problem when I was learning cork 7s back in the day.  There are two thing to keep in mind in order to fix it. 

When you're going off the jump, think of having a really tight core and being upright with your back.  You don't want the lip to kick you forward.  This is pretty scary when you first try it with a cork, so it sometimes helps to not go very off axis.  It's going to be really scary if you can't backflip (so if you can't, you might want to learn that first).

The other is a hint I got from a trick tip in Freeze.  In order to help bring your legs around your body so that you come out of the cork, watch your heel piece on your left ski while going through the cork.  Since you're body follows your head, it will help to get your feet around so that you don't just stall out and land back seat. 

A bigger jump would probably make it easier, but it'll also make the crashes hurt and it'll make it harder to commit.  I think I'd stick to something similar to that size and gradually work into a cork from a regular 7.


Feb 26 2010 9:37PM
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Testicles
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Definite stomp if you just go for 9
Feb 26 2010 10:26PM
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jibsteeze8
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this was my experience
Feb 27 2010 9:40AM
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Ryan*
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L0lZ ur such a gaper...I kid :D
Anyways, it has sort of already been explained, but I figured a little extra clarification couldn't hurt.  A cork spin is when you drop your leading shoulder (left shoulder if you're spinning left, right shoulder if you're spinning right) down towards your leading side as you spin.  This makes you lean backwards as you spin, but you never go fully inverted; that is, your feet never really end up way over your head, like in a rodeo.  A bio is the same thing, but forward.  You lean forwards as you spin, but again, never go fully inverted.  Bio spins are not really done anymore because it is usually pretty hard to distinguish between a very corked (off-axis) bio spin and a not so corked misty.  They're usually just all called mistys now.  By contrast, a rodeo goes very clearly inverted or almost inverted, much more so than a cork spin, so it is very easy to distinguish between a cork and a rodeo. 

The OP is definitely going cork; watch how his body goes backwards and his head is uphill in comparison to his feet originally.  Eventually, he gets his feet back under him, or at least tries, but in the initial rotation he is very clearly leaning back towards the lip.

Hope that helped!
Feb 27 2010 10:58AM
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Ryan*
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Correction: I suppose one could say that bio spins are still done, but they are generally not called bios anymore.
Feb 27 2010 11:00AM
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WVskiing
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just go for the double
Feb 27 2010 11:53AM
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