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Top 5 Skiers All Around

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J.D.
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I'm getting hated on super hard over at TGR for basically telling them they're all delusional in making their lists of the top "all around" skiers, ie skiers who can do everything... Curious to see if Newschoolers is equally out to lunch in their perspective on these matters. Who is at the top of the sport right now when you consider all aspects of it in your opinion?

Go.
Nov 5 2009 12:33AM
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panojibber
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Dane Tudor.
Tanner Hall.
Sage.
Candide.
Seth.
Nov 5 2009 9:49AM
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mynilla
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jp
sage
dane
tanner
pettits
sammy carlson is up there too
Nov 5 2009 10:04AM
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blavallee4
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tom wallisch

henrik harlaut

phil casabon

jon olsson

tj shiller

no paticular order, many others

Nov 5 2009 10:17AM
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BWalmer
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Tanner Hall - Obviously
Dane Tudor - EDIAS (need I say more)
Tim Durtschi - EDIAS (again, no more is needed to be said)
Sammy Carlson - Took his park and urban style out back
Mike Henitiuk - SUPER underratted, kid does everything (again EDIAS, and the bonus features prove it)
Nov 5 2009 10:36AM
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Karma_Police
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Well there are a lot of older hags over there with out a doubt, but for the most part the people that are the "core" skiers with out a doubt will recognize that list that you quoted. But there are some people that put Doug Coombs, Doug Coombs, Doug Coombs......its kinda the same way when kids say tom wallisch or hornbeck, granted all the above stated are great skiers not just all around skiers.
Nov 5 2009 10:47AM
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hiphopopotamus
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Dane Tudor is better then tanner at big mountain, jumps and rails (watch edias)

my list

Tudor
Tanner
Abma (even though i have not seen him do a rail in years kills at jumps and one of the best big mountian in the world)
wiley miller
setfan!!


Nov 5 2009 11:11AM
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dan4060
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I don't think you can list Hjorleifson with Shane and Eric Roner.  Hjorleifson was a great park skier a few years ago.  Not x-games medal level, but you could film him in the park and get great shots.  Watch his segment inYearbook(MSP);  it is very short, but you see him destroying a couple of big mountain lines and then going into the park and spinning 900's both ways.  In the last couple of years we have not seen park footage from him, but that does not mean he cannot still slay the park.  I think he does deserve credit as an all-around guy.  I'm not saying he needs to be on everyone's list, just that he does not belong in the same league as Roner and Shane, who are clearly big mountain only at this point.

Seriously, is Jon any better of a big mountain skier the Hoji a park skier?  I think that is debatable.  I am not saying Jon can't ski big mountain, he definitely can, but he is not one of the best at it.  I think Hoji in the park and Jon in big mountains are pretty similar.

Also, some of the people who list Shane probably see it as a lifetime achievement award.  He might not have been among the best in the many disciplines near the end, but in his prime:

                             He was arguably the best big mountain skier in the world, with great video parts
                             and more big mountain contest wins than just about anyone.

                             He was an x-games level competitior on skier-x and big air.  Granted, he only
                             competed on those disciplines at the beginning, but it was still impressive.

                             He had been a professional mogul skier

                            Before that he also had a strong racing background.

That is a very diverse set of accomplishments.  My guess is many of the people who listed him had that in mind.

If we are talking about lifetime stuff, Jonny Moseley also deserves a mention.  There was a time when he was:

Arguably the best park skier

A pioneer who had won an Olympic gold

One of the top big mountain guys out there.

Most of the people listed have weaknesses.  They are usually either at the top of the park game, and great at big mounatin, or at the top of the big mountain game and great at park.  But no one is really at the top of both disciplines.  Moseley was around 2000, and he also dominated changed olympic mogul skiing.

My list of guys right now:

Tanner
Sage
Hjorleifson
Abma
Henrich Windstedt
Nov 5 2009 12:17PM
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FUUUCK
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....yeah actually you do need to say more, being an all around skier isn't just about rails and jumps.
Nov 5 2009 12:59PM
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TWoods
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Suzanne Graham is the best girl skier. If she skied park, she could be the best at that too.
Ingrid is close.

Ashley Batts is the best girl park skier, not necessarily because she has the most tricks, but because she actually looks stylish doing them, not like most girls who look like super stiff and awkward whenever they do anything.

Grete is probably the best mix of park and BC.
Nov 5 2009 1:05PM
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Pinguu
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This but instead of Seth, Candide.

Sage is probly the best skier in the world
Nov 5 2009 1:05PM
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TWoods
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Tanner
Wiley
Dane Tudor
Duncan Adams
Pep Fujas

not in that order.

Nov 5 2009 1:08PM
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Malcolm
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in no particular order
candide
sage
tanner
tudor
jp
Nov 5 2009 1:10PM
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=FLO=
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I am sorry but this is one of the dumbest posts of all time.  Seth can frequently be seen shredding Crested Butte, if you can catch him.  I have taken many laps with him and I have never seen anyone shred in bounds harder or faster.  Seth shows true love for the sport and skis loveland and a-bay super early like every other skiing fiend.  He does park laps with basic tricks, not the ultimate park skier, but absolutely near the top of best all around skiers.

My 5 tho:

Tanner/Abma/Tudor/Seth/Sage

Nov 5 2009 1:12PM
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skifree179
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def
Nov 5 2009 1:16PM
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johanblaze
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These lists are fucking retarded. Seth is one of my favorite skiers, but is not one of the top 5 all around skiers. Jesus Christ, when have you ever seen Seth slay an urban rail. And why the fuck is Tom Wallisch on anyone's list? Has he ever skied a legit big mountain line in his life? Fuck no. Use your heads, kids.
Nov 5 2009 1:40PM
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NickMartini
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Spriggs
Tudor
Tanner
Sammy
Nov 5 2009 1:48PM
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doGelyst
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I can't come up with 5 but Abma is super sick all around.
Nov 5 2009 1:51PM
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johanblaze
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Collin Collins should be all over everyone's list. Watch these, good for your eyes.

Collin Collins summer '09 from Collin Collins on Vimeo.


OUTTABOUNDS rough season edit from Collin Collins on Vimeo.





Nov 5 2009 1:55PM
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Rockhound
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tudor
candide
pep
tanner
durschi
keyser soze
Nov 5 2009 2:03PM
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crazy_karl
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yeah Collin is the SHIT! get that guy a video part!!
Nov 5 2009 2:04PM
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Pugalope
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1. shane mcconkey
2.shane mcconkey
3.shane mcconkey
4.shane mcconkey
5.shane mcconkey
Nov 5 2009 2:10PM
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SLCPhil
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In no particular order:

Tanner
Sage
Wiley
Pep
CR - an old school favorite
Nov 5 2009 2:17PM
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THIGHHIGH
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jack borland
Nov 5 2009 2:25PM
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OGSlopewatcherAssassin
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"I'm getting hated on super hard over on TGR"

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Nov 5 2009 2:44PM
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jksl
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the irie giant can do anything
Nov 5 2009 2:46PM
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J.D.
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^Yeah chad, good call, I'm definitely crying about hate on the internet, it's just not what I'm used to having only worked for the hate capital of the universe in Newschoolers for years and years.

I made this thread to see how many NS kids would actually make a list comprised of B-Dog, Wallisch and Harlaut, being completely oblivious to big lines or just classifying them as less important than park and urban, just as the TGR dudes basically look on park and urban as non-existent or unimportant. So far, on the whole, lists in this thread have been more or less reasonable.
Nov 5 2009 2:47PM
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schillz33
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Not in any particular order and I think that like most of these lists mine has a bias towards my favorite skiers to watch.  It is too damn hard to pick the BEST 5.  I'd say that these are some of my favorite 5.  I'll be the first to say that I can't judge the BEST 5

T-hall
Jon
Wiley
Sage
Wallisch
Nov 5 2009 2:53PM
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McLeod
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top 5 as far as being able to do everything (SETH CANT RIDE PARK), in no particular order:

Pep
Tanner
Tudor
Rainville
Pettits
Nov 5 2009 3:20PM
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JacheOReally
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All of these are in their prime

Tanner
Seth
Candide
Pollard
and Duncan Adams cause he's gonna explode

Nov 5 2009 3:37PM
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Canadianfreeride
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Jon is for sure the best all round. World class racer as well.
Nov 5 2009 3:46PM
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BC.
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Nov 5 2009 3:54PM
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Ski.Ballet
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Some more names to think about:
Brandon Kelly
Bernie Rosow
Chris Benchetler
Chris Turpin

Nov 5 2009 4:04PM
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garygohard
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scott vail

scott vail

scott vail

scott vail

scott vail

Nov 5 2009 4:11PM
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knows_butter
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I think the general consensus is Tanner Hall is the best all round skier.
Nov 5 2009 4:16PM
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pikupfulofsnow
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Spriggs
Sammy
Dane
Durtschi
Henitiuk
Nov 5 2009 4:17PM
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ski@jaypeak2
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So urban rail skill is now considered skiing skill?  Im sure if he didnt care about falling on concrete he would be nasty at it.  not too mention isnt he like 35?  The first urbans werent done untill like 2001.  Thats like saying Dan treadway is not an "overall" good skier because he never hit rails
Nov 5 2009 5:15PM
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icon1234
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Rainvile
T-hall
Sage
Amba
sean peterson
Nov 5 2009 5:18PM
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_steffen_
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Pollard
Tanner
jon

Nov 5 2009 5:21PM
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ski-swagga
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Tanner

Jon

Dane

Pep

Seth

Nov 5 2009 5:22PM
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duhamelski
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best skiers-

shane mcconkey
jt holmes
sage catabriga alosa
seth morrison
tanner
pep
eric pollard
mike wilson
bode miller
daren ralves
the norwegian freestyle team
sho kashima
a bunch more guys you havent heard of
Nov 5 2009 6:08PM
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fk.ths.noys
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Candide. If he's not at the top of your list, Fuck you.
Pep, Sage, Pollard
And Candide.
Nov 5 2009 11:10PM
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alaskakid
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Tanner
Jon
Candide
Dane Tudor
tie of Pep/Simon/Sammy

I bet I forgot at least 10 skiers.
Nov 5 2009 11:16PM
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fk.ths.noys
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Sorry to double up, but wow...I think the question was based on "all around"...a bit misguided with Bode, the norwegians, Wilson and Sho..Darren, Seth, J.T. and even Shane(R.I.P he's amazing and a huge part of our sport, but just not top 5 at all) are a stretch. i can see where the others are comin from, but there's no Candide, so..fuck you
Nov 5 2009 11:17PM
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bambooze
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5 skiers is a really short list  but id go

Glen Plake, Morrison, Tanner, Fujas, and Jon

Nov 5 2009 11:20PM
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Shlogan
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tanner hall
jon olsson
dane tudor
eric pollard
dont have a 5th really.
Nov 5 2009 11:30PM
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Ar6*Steeze
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its obvbous tanner is the best. but y do people put mcconkey for all around. never skied park in his life
Nov 5 2009 11:40PM
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jfletcher
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jon brogan
sean jordon
tom warnick
nick martini
charlie owens
Nov 5 2009 11:41PM
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DR.SHRED
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tanner

sage

seth

rainville

sammy

Nov 5 2009 11:43PM
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ThaLorax
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yeah... I've never heard of Collin Collins so i watched those videos w/ an open mind but I wasn't really impressed by those videos at all. definitely shouldn't be all over everyone's top 5.


and to whoever said McConkey neve skied park, you are sooo wrong. he could throw w/ some of the best, he just specialized in big mtn so that's all you ever see published.
Nov 6 2009 12:07AM
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Kevski
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1. Tanner
2. Abma
3. Wiley Miller
4. Dane Tudor
5. Sage

This is just off the top of my head, didn't check the thread yet because I didn't want to be influenced. I probably forgot someone really important though.
Nov 6 2009 12:25AM
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