50 shipped for either, the foursquare is a softshell and the orage is 20k, vents, powder skirt, all that good stuff you'd expect. no tears or stains on them. send me a message if interested. im on the east coast but could ship it no problem.
The trick here is to excel at things you can control. Work hard, act like you've got some sense, be patient and remember that "nothing" is better than "misery." Happiness will seek you out and it's worth waiting for.