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also sucks for the guy who stepped on him, I'd feel a bit shitty squashing a human with a car.
seatbeltsftw
Wow I hope that everyone on here saying the seatbelt law is nesascary also wears a helmet everytime they go skiing. How would you feel if resorts made helmets manditory for everyone? As other people have stated this law protects me from myself. I do not harm anyone else by not wearing my seatbelt(yes taxes in an indirect way) By bringing up the whole tax issue you are opening a whole different can of worms. This reminds me of the whole national healthcare, and soda tax and fast food tax. Lets not get into that. But i do have a couple questions though. Why are there no seatbelts on school buses? Certainly children should be safe on the way to school. Why not make all convertiable drivers where helmets? They would be a lot safer with helmets on.
Just because its a stupid decision not to wear one does not me it should be a crime punishable of a $100 fine. Unless that money goes towards seatbelts on school buses.
I know i am the only one on this side of the fight and im not trying to be a dick but this is one thing that erks me.
u ususally end up in a hospital even if your in a seatbelt so this does not work
Then lets make it even and fine everyone that "puts a strain on tax payers" Certainly diabeties is one of the many strains on health care.
Most Americans who are diagnosed with diabetes have type 2 diabetes. Many people destined to develop type 2 diabetes spend many years in a state of Pre-diabetes: Termed "America's largest healthcare epidemic," pre-diabetes indicates a condition that occurs when a person's blood glucose levels are higher than normal but not high enough for a diagnosis of type 2 diabetes. As of 2009 there are 57 million Americans who have pre-diabetes. There are numerous theories as to the exact cause and mechanism in type 2 diabetes. Central obesity (fat concentrated around the waist in relation to abdominal organs, but not subcutaneous fat) is known to predispose individuals to insulin resistance. Abdominal fat is especially active hormonally, secreting a group of hormones called adipokines that may possibly impair glucose tolerance. Obesity is found in approximately 55% of patients diagnosed with type 2 diabetes
So dont play the "medical bills" card. And still no one has told me why school buses don't have seatbelts.
no but 55% of 57million is 31,350,000. Still a very large number of people that have diabietes BECAUSE they are overwheight. Doesnt that make them a danger to themselves? i think if a cop sees and overweight person in the drive-thru at mcdonalds(because they are too lazy to walk inside) he should write them a ticket for endangering themselves.
Now obviously this would never happen but how can you say that the state is responsible for my safty and health?
what am i reading here? "Why would not simply making use of the lands of a country (i.e. for traveling) make you subject to that country's laws because of the implicit benefits you gain (i.e. safe passage, an efficient road, etc.)?" I understand i am under the subject of the law. My problem is that the law is not needed. Yes cars are dangerous, yes seatbelts limit that danger. Now.....
Convertibles=dangerous Helmets limit danger why no law?
Skiing=dangerous Helmets limit danger still no laws
Every child entering kindergarden should wear a mouth gaurd because it will make them safer.(sarcasm) Where do you draw the line with personal saftey?
Yeah i get the social contract idea and i do abide by most of the laws. However laws that i disagree with i break. Yep, sometimes i dont wear my seatbelt. However i have written more then one letter to my governor in hopes to change this law. And my main point is school buses. Now if the state of Vermont were to tell me, "Tim, all that money we take in from writing these tickets for seatbelt infractions, well we're going to put it into this account that will be in charge if installing seatbelts into all school, AND CITY buses." Then i would say "Awesome! At least i know you are trying to make vermont's children safer." But they dont do that, and the response i always get to the school bus seatbelts is "It cost too much"
Now I think NH has the law correct when the set an age limit of 18. If you are a minor then buckle that shit up and live to be 18 so you can someday enroll in the military. IF you are over 18 then fuck it, its your life "live free or die" or die by living seatbelt free.
Again im not trying to be an ass, i like to think of myself as a libertarian and any personal saftey law to me is suspect
And a mcdonalds tax, and a dunkaroo's tax. This when people talk about the slippery slope. Yes it is a good thing to wear a seatbelt but lets let the insurance companies figure out how to take money from us if we dont wear one, not the government.
I still have 40 mins at work to troll NS, i think this is the most pleasant and thought provoking thread here right now
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The difference being everything you named is a job. I dont get paid to drive to work. I do not get a pension if i die on my way to work. And it has nothing to do with comfort at all. I think anybody that says they are uncomforable is ruining my argument. Sometimes i dont buckle it i know people say its second nature for them but i really never got into the habit, now i dont think i should have to pay $100 because i am unsafe to myself.
