so im trying to get rid of these, they are super stiff and fat and are great for pow. they are BRAND new from a couple of years ago, have only been used maybe 3 days max. they come with either salomon sth 12 oversizes or z12 oversizes i dont rlly know. its a rlly rough price but im asking for 600. i payed a little over 1000 for them. remember its a rough price so just offer up and ill think about it.