As i sit here basking in yet another late nite i ponder onto the side walk to see an abdominal tortis laughing and giggling in dismay even though the red panties are far from dry there is still no point in to which you are too old to watch saturday morning cartoons as pasttimes come and comehither no one wonders whats the color orange on mars?_ Four20ski
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doubt he had a recco, thats usually just used at resorts. Avalanche beacons is what you use in backcountry.
and look right before 1:10. He should have booked it to his safety zone, go left that ridge or whatever other safe spot there would be. It was quite obvious at 1:10 that you should be cautious and make sure everything is allright.
Seriously the scariest video I've ever seen. I'm never skiing powder outside of the trees again until I get certified with the proper equipment.
I almost started crying, like what if that was my ignorant east coast ass who was skiing off piste with my buddies out west with no equipment or knowledge whatsoever, like I've done in the past. I more than likely would've been staring at that blue screen forever
A scary shot indeed. In terrain of that size and complexity you definitely want to have your game finely tuned.
Everyone who was scared by this should watch "A dozen more turns". I prefer it for the scare factor because it happens in treed terrain. Although this video is effective I think a lot of us avoid this kind of terrain period. But the accident in a dozen more turns occurs on a slope that everyone can imagine themselves on.
Yeah it is two separate systems. All beacons have a search function and a send function. That way one beacon can find another. Recco on the other hand uses "reflectors" that are built into gear, but they require a special unit to find them. The finder device though also has a built in analog beacon so if you are using it you can search for recco reflectors and beacons at the same time.
i never noticed before, but the rescuer has a plastic shovel. surprised. i used to have one of that same blue life link shovel back in the day. until i started doing actual digging scenarios. then i got a metal blade.
Yeah... a Recco reflector is just a body finder. If you're buying outerwear with the Recco Reflector don't think for a second that it's a legitimate substitute for a beacon. They'll find you, but it'll be too late most likely.
And I was surprised by the plastic blade as well. I rock the Voile Mini and love it. takes up very little space in my pack, and moves snow just as fast as a bigger one.
This vid has been going around the net for a few days now. I first saw it on a technology blog. While it is a very good reminder of the dangers that exist in the oh-so-scary 'backcountry', I am worried that clips like this will further exaggerate the fears of the general public allowing the media to intensify their fear mongering. This is only bad news as it will eventually lead to a governmental inquiry and a subsequent ban on North American winter backcountry travel. In no way am I attempting to discount the value a clip like this has(that is, in reminding us on how important safety, caution and diligence are in the BC), I'm just not happy about the perception it creates among permanent city dwellers with regards to backcountry users. For instance, suddenly the guy giving you a job interview thinks you are a death-wishing, darwin-award-winning, liability as soon as he sees on your resume that you enjoy backcountry travel; simply because he has seen a video like this on his morning read of his favorite technology blog. It's an unfortunate reality. Oh well. Play safe.
everyone that watches this should read the entire text below the video on vimeo. it makes sense of it all and explains the point of the video. the poster "chappy" is the owner of porters in tahoe, who has been on snow for 20 years and is a regular in haines most years now.
this guy (the skier in the video) sold it to black diamond. the video they made is not only cut short, but they imply that an avalung helped him survive. the reality is that he did NOT get the mouth piece in on time and the avalung did NOT play a part in his survival.
as chappy says in the comments, what is amazing is not only that he survived, but that they got him uncovered in only 4 and a half minutes... and there is a few more minutes of video that chappy cant find anymore, and thats how much longer it took them to actually get him out, standing up.
I agree the approach media takes in covering avalanches is horrendous. They treat them like tornadoes as if avalanches are basically random events of destruction and can in no way be predicted or controlled.
I am not really sure though if the gear mongering is a bad thing. I think human beings are slow learners and won't seek education unless personally effected by a disaster. The more fearful people are of the consequences of poor decisions the more likely they are to seek education in my opinion. In some cases the fear in the public has benefits. For example when a big name dies in an avalanche (see pierre trudeau's son) public funding and education rates skyrocket.
I do agree though that there needs to be a clear distinction between avalanches and other types of "natural disasters". But having a little bit of fear isn't necessarily a bad thing.
As far as outlawing backcountry activity that will never happen (at least in canada). Most backcountry skiing occurs on crown land and is used for a wide variety of recreation (hunting, fishing, skiing, snowmobiling, hiking, mountaineering, etc.). Worst case scenario would be ski resorts pulling passes/tickets if you enter the backcountry via their access systems.
this was probably the scariest shit ive seen on this site. IMO good job for posting it, it really makes me wanna go brush on those avalanche skills. pretty scary getting that sensation of being first hand buried.
hey, sad but true thing is that Recco is used more often in body recovery than it is in saving people who are buried. Recco runs on a completely different device and is not picked up by beacons at all. Resorts use it, but usually they set up a probe line, before the recco devce is even considered. Recco is rarely used to save, though I am sure it has before.
What resort uses a probe line before Recco? The only reason to set up a probe line before using the Recco would be if you haven't gotten the Recco device on scene yet. As far as I know Recco has had a few live recoveries in Europe, last I had heard none in North America, but maybe they got one recently that I didn't hear about. It is a cool device, the main drawback is getting it to the scene, similar issue with avy dogs.
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Wow, that shit is real! Every year more and more people are venturing into the Back Country. The best way to harness this is to educate yourself and get more experience. Way to many people think just because they have taken an Avy 1 or 2 they are safe. Factor is avalanches can happen anywhere to anyone at anytime, The "human factor" is "us" placing ourselves in these situations, learn to make logical decisions and respect the mountain. Save money and come learn more with the SASS family in Argentina where we are not a park camp but we emphasize on Back country safety. So when are in the Back Country you read the mountain, play safe, and ski longer. BE SAFE
That just about made me lose my dinner. I had a friend get buried in East Vail Chutes. They didn't find him until the next morning. This just brought that all back again. I'm glad this guy made it, and I'm glad guys are able to see this. It was just a little too personal for me. The last time I got to see my friend Howard, he was in a bag.
be prepared, know what the hell your doing. all the gear in the world doesnt do you shit worth of good if you dont
a) know how to use it
b) have at least a basic knowledge of how to dig pits, read the snowpack, etc.
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