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Just Found Fentanyl in Stepdad's garage

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EastCoast315
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What the fuck do I do?
My mom, who defends him to the death (that he isn't abusive/alcoholic/an asshole) would only accuse me of buying it to frame him, so telling her would do nothing.
I could confront him directly, but mingling in his trade could result in violence (I know he deals other opiates).
I could take photo evidence, keep it until I turn 16, and use it against him in a court, get emancipation and move in with my grandmother/uncle.
I could destroy it.
All I know is that I wont let it by me again. Ive found his Suboxone before, and didnt really do anything about it.

To add to this, I checked his history, and a few days ago he was reading all sorts of shit about FBI Clandestinely produced fentanyl from mexico, in the form of a Duregesic Transdermal patch, the most common form bought and sold illicitly, reinforcing my assumption that it was purchased illegitimately. They dont prescribe that shit to just anyone, that shits for like, cancer patients.

I dont know what the fuck to do

Sep 22 2009 6:21PM
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BdoubleU
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it should be a thread titled - found my dad's fentanyl...how much do I take?


Sep 22 2009 6:22PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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Sep 22 2009 6:24PM
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cornholio
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Sep 22 2009 6:25PM
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EastCoast315
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Sorry dude, Im not going to do a drug as powerful as that. Respiratory depression kills
Sep 22 2009 6:26PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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If you want serious answers, post this in Ladies Men. NSG responses are typically immature or just for the lols.
Sep 22 2009 6:30PM
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yojimbo
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anonymous tip off the cops that he's dealing fucked up shit or steal it and tell him to start dealing weed instead
Sep 22 2009 6:31PM
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EastCoast315
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Your right. I hate posting non-LM shit there, but Im gonna have to do that
Sep 22 2009 6:31PM
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kepler.
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NS. There are times and places for funny responses. This is not one of them. Go to 4chan if you feel like being a dick to every person you come across. This kid obviously is in a pretty shitty situation, help him out with advice. Not the first response you can think of that will get a laugh. Non ski gabber is not /b/ it's still part of the community where everyone should consider themselves family. And I sure as hell wouldn't talk to my brother like this if he came up to me and asked a serious question.

/rant.

With that being said man. If your mom really wouldn't believe you when you say you found your stepdad's garage, then you need to go to the police. My dad works in a program called Guardian Ad Litem (basically he's someone who only focuses on the child's interest in situations like the one you're in, if it got the attention of the courts) and I hear about stuff like this all the time. It's so hard to really mature and become a good person when you're in a bad situation like this. Untrusting biological parents and sketchy step parents.

I'd really say go talk to your school and they can help you out. The police would get in a situation like this and then you'd have to go to court to find out who gets custody, but it really doesn't sound like you should be in that home. Trust me. There are people in the court systems who have only the interest of the child and they can help you out in a ton of ways. Please take this in to consideration. I'm sorry you're in such a bad place right now.
Sep 22 2009 6:33PM
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thedutchmayn
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you dont want to turn him in for dealing cause thatd have huge consequences that im not sure your willing to stir up. you cant talk to your mom at all? does she know he sells? your best bet may just be to stay out of his way if you have no relationship with him. just do your own thing and live your own life. you could observe what happens to him it could be a learning experience. you wont get in trouble for his mistakes. if anything he'll eventually fuck up and be out of the house anyway.
Sep 22 2009 6:34PM
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thedutchmayn
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i want to restate my advice cause if its an unhealthy living situation for you then get out of there. if you can just do your own thing then good but if its fucking your life up then talk to your grandmother and uncle for a place to live. if that doesnt work then go to the police. straight up.

i had to call the cops on my dad and have him taken away it was a shitty situation. if your not hesitant then do it. it may be a wake up call to him as he'll be at rock bottom. or he'll want to kill himself.
Sep 22 2009 6:39PM
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grifftang
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if you wont miss him, tell the cops

if you dont want him to get caught, take it, and tell him to stop or you will go to the cops
Sep 22 2009 6:42PM
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kepler.
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The only reason I suggested seeking a counselor or police officer's help is because he said "wait til I turn 16"

No kid, and you are just a kid OP, should have to put up with shit like this. Even if you're 15 you aren't mature enough to handle a weighty situation like this. I'm sorry for sounding like an authority figure, but it's the truth.
Sep 22 2009 6:43PM
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EastCoast315
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Thanks for a wicked legit post. 10/10

Well, the thing is, my mom had me illegit back in california, my real dad left and.. you know that kind of situation.
So my mom left me with my grandparents because she had to work and shit. This was in north carolina now. Five years from then, we move to NY. Then, in 2004 my grandparents got a divorce, and my mom took me in. At the time she was wicked Lonely, met my stepdad, and was hooked on him, convinced that hes fucking great. So they had my brother, which I call "The legitimizer" because then at least one of my mothers children will be born in wedlock.

But because of my brother, 8 months old, I love him to death, I dont want to split up the family and send my stepdad to jail or anything, because even though hes a douche, I would rather leave Adam with a dad. Later in his life, he can make the decision to stay with him or not. So my alternative is to just leave. Live with a relative, or in a camper or something. After high school Im going to skibum for a few years, so maybe this is just fates way of giving me an early start.
Sep 22 2009 6:43PM
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@skiinmitch
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di wat ever u think is right,

Sep 22 2009 7:38PM
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smooticus
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hmm, well you could go to the police but i dont think there just going to arrest him, so what i would do is do some more investigating and find where he keeps his shit. Dont take it, go to the police station with the shit you have and tell him he has more drugs and where they can find them in the house. This way i beleive they could get a warrant to search and he will be fucked, plus your mom will obviously have to beleive you.

Also try talking to your moms parents and siblings tell them whats going on. Intervention time. Thats a shitty situation dude. I imgine your freakin out. If my mom was with a douche bag like that i wouldnt know what to do either.

Sep 22 2009 7:43PM
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user098123
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I can understand the need for a dad and a full family, but do you think that is a good environment for an 8 month old kid to grow up in until he is 16 and have to put up with all that crap and possible danger for his whole life?

It almost seems to me like it would be better to do it now, while he is still young and won't remember it. At least then he won't be growing up in that situation.

Just my 2 cents. You are in a tough situation man.
Sep 22 2009 7:48PM
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NomenClature
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My 2 cents:

Your brother doesn't need a dad with a heavy opiate problem.  Even if he just sells, people get hemmed up for drugs like this.  The chances of his involvement with these substances bringing some heavy shit into your lives is 100% (armed robbery by some junkies / violent debt collection).  You need to get rid of this guy.

Some things to consider:

If your with your mom "illegally", then bringing the police/social services into the picture could result in her losing custody (if they decide shes not a fit parent).

The cops WILL NOT believe that you were able to purchase fentanyl with the intent of framing him.  (so if you call the cops and your mom tries to say this, they wont buy it)

Generally fentanyl is used as a heroin substitute, if sells it, he probably sells heroin as well.  Or if he uses it, he probably uses heroin, or Oxycontin [basically professionally produced heroin]

Your options as I see them:

Call the cops

Tell your mom (but dont do that unless your ready to call the cops IMMEDIATELY if shes trys to do anything but throw his ass out.)

If you have cousins / uncles you can trust, call them and tell them the whole situation.  THey can either vouch for you with the cops, or help you confront him and throw his out out.

DO NOT DO NOTHING, DO NOT WAIT.
Sep 22 2009 8:10PM
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NomenClature
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without a decade long opiate tolerance, fentanyl is essentially lethal.  Whenever you receive your next ass beating, you deserve it.
Sep 22 2009 8:12PM
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EastCoast315
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***UPDATE***

I decided to bring it to my mom anyway, just to see what she would say and everything.
We have a friend who has cancer, and they prescribe fent to cancer patients for the intense pain of chemo, and she mustve left it behind. Which seems like a legit excuse, but my mom might be covering for him?

Im suspicious, because even if that was the case, why would he be looking up FBI warnings on clandestine fentanyl? The warnings claimed that those batches illegally made in mexico were dosed wrong and were ODing people all over the country, particularly in the northeast. Why would he care about such a warning if he had no intent to use it?
And why wouldnt he use it? Hes got a sketchy history, and I have just cause to think that he is or was a junkie. I used to keep a log of his stash of suboxone (A step down from heroin, close to the same effects for wayyy cheaper. A flake of a pill would kill me, and when I counted his stash, he took them whole!)

So I might use this whole experience to segue into his suboxone and oxy/hydro deals. I need to snub him out somehow.

Oh, and I have 12 pics of the fentanyl
Sep 22 2009 8:34PM
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user098123
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If your mom told you that...ask yourself this question. If your parents friend accidentally left it at your house, why would it be hidden in the garage?
Sep 22 2009 8:37PM
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EastCoast315
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True
Sep 22 2009 8:38PM
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user098123
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Sounds like your mom is covering for your stepdad and he has an ongoing problem. In my opinion, I think you need to get yourself and your brother if possible out of that house. Sure it sucks to break up a family but that is some serious shit. It only sounds like it is getting worse, and if you start confronting him about it things could get out of hand.
Sep 22 2009 8:39PM
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factory81
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Fentalyn is the shit. Stronger then heroin. People with no tolerance can stick one of them on and end up dead.

This guy needs rehab. Thats all there is to it.

Sep 22 2009 8:42PM
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mynilla
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good luck and keep us updated!
Sep 22 2009 8:43PM
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Mr.Panda
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I'm with this guy.  A whole family is a great thing, and something every kid should grow up with.  But, with a Fentanyl dealing dad and a mom that can't see what is happening (no offense to your mom dude) how truly whole is that family?  It's is almost worse than growing up with a single mother.  I'm sorry, I am NOT trying to bad mouth your mom's reputation in anyway but I would take a pic, and then go tell the cops.  Don't carry it into the station with you though because, at least me, I would likely get pulled over for something stupid on the way to the police station with the Fentanyl in my truck.

I can't imagine how hard this can be for you but, if you do take this to the cops you may not see your half brother again for a long time unless you are both given to the same family.  I don't know what state or where you are from but legal age in the USA at least is 18, which means you would both likely be given a guardian of some kind.  You may be able to go to the same guardian at the same time too.

So, in the end, my opinion for what it is worth, is take it to the cops.
Sep 22 2009 8:49PM
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TheQuailman
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If your stepdad has illegal drugs which he is possibly selling, then you need to tell the police.  I think your mom is clearly trying to cover up for your stepdad.  Why would someone with cancer bring serious medication to your house and leave it there hidden in the garage.  That type of medication is probably extremely expensive and dangerous.  No one would bring that to someones house and leave it around.

Your stepdad clearly has a SERIOUS addiction/drug problem.  You need to be the man of the house and call the police and ask for help.  Your mom is clearly not doing her 'job' and you have a step-brother to look out for. Your stepdad needs help. 

I would tell your mom that your calling the police.  If it was really a friend's then they will find that out and everything will be okay.

Best of luck, let us know what happens.

Sep 22 2009 8:50PM
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pmills
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I say you get on the phone with your grandma or uncle to at least let them know what's going on. You also might want to check your mom's story, if you know the friend she was talking about. It sounds like you've got a pretty level head and understand the circumstances you're facing, so keep strong. That said, there is truth in what others have said, you're 15, you shouldn't really have to be dealing with that sort of stuff in your life.

 It's probably safe to say you've got a decent idea as to what you think would be right for you, but be careful about thinking on behalf of your brother. Even though you want him to have a father, or to not have a broken family, or whatever your motives are to keep things together, it's not going to be easy for you to really comprehend all the factors that influence his life. Getting someone you trust involved, who can help you make the right choices is the best idea. It will give you an opportunity to provide your insight as to what you understand to be the 'best options' while allowing someone with a bit more experience and a little less bias to process the facts.

good luck.
Sep 22 2009 8:51PM
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WorthDaMoney
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hope things work out for the best
Sep 22 2009 8:57PM
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NomenClature
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they dont give people fentanyl for chemo, that's a lie.  Unless the person was heroin addict it would kill them.

Fent is used Exclusively as a pain med for people who can manage their pain with 160mg of Oxy (which is a TON)

sounds like your mom was ready for that question. call the cops.
Sep 22 2009 9:04PM
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NomenClature
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^Cant manage, sorry
Sep 22 2009 9:13PM
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Pow.yuHdig*
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retard
Sep 22 2009 9:24PM
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gnarshrelpt
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alert the popo anonymously
Sep 22 2009 9:28PM
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EastCoast315
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Shit dude, your def right
And that lady was by no means a heroin addict

FUCk either my mom is fucking clueless or an amazing liar
Sep 22 2009 9:41PM
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Mr.Panda
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pretty sure your mom is probably covering it up.  if you can see it, she probably can too, it means she is just ignoring it.
Sep 22 2009 9:43PM
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Stuck.in.ohio
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Dude just think about it, your mom definitely is covering his ass so call the cops for sure. And even if for some reason it's true then no harm is done but I highly doubt it.

And like other people said definitely tell any family members you are close to about this and try to stay with them with your brother too.

I know a kid whose dad is a meth addict and in jail but he now lives with his grandpa and his little bro and his mom is out of the picture too. I know it was tough at first for him to leave his dad but he knew what he had to do and is now doing great.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do

Sep 22 2009 10:14PM
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jasontheredhead
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if you and your little bro are in any danger from this guy bail the fuck out and alert the police

also are you sure he is dealing them? or just taking them?

Sep 22 2009 10:16PM
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JosephStalin
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im really sorry to hear this. i feel your pain. my aunt is a drug addict and it was extremely hard for my cousins.

you need to call the authorities. although I cant begin to imagine how hard making that phone call would be.

and if it ends up he has a legitimate excuse, the cops will see that.

sorry that ur in a shitty situation, major vibes.
Sep 22 2009 10:20PM
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k-rob
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just call the police.
Sep 22 2009 11:14PM
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SteezyOhio
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make him some jello, then put that shit in it.
but honestly on a serious note, im sorry about your current sitation and family issues, often take mine for granted, but i would do the best thing and call the police, i know that you seem more responsable and would prolly make a better role model to your lil bro then this dill weed would.
Sep 22 2009 11:16PM
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TPatel
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i agree; and i hate to say it to you man, but it sounds like you mom is covering for him. i'd call the cops, but if you're worried about your safety, then call them anonymously. I know it sucks to split you little brothers family up, but its better that then having your step dad hurt him when he finds out later that he's father is dealing.
word of advice though (and this helped me out in tough times recently, though my situation was different) even if you dont call the cops, talk. ether to a close friend or a relative or a phycologist...just talking and getting things off you chest and into the air will help with the personal stress im guessing you're feeling. i know i would be in ur situation.

++++vibes man, and good luck with w/e you decide to do.
Sep 22 2009 11:25PM
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Kazabazua
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I think this kid has the toughest life out of anyone on this site... mad props to you kid
Sep 22 2009 11:51PM
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Style+eeze
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you're worried about your half-brother, but if he's only a baby, go to your uncle!

he and your aunt can become the "mom and dad" and he won't know the difference until he's old enough to understand.

and as everyone else said, call the fucking police. your step-dad sounds insane
Sep 22 2009 11:51PM
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KJL.
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Go to a pay phone away from the house and call childs help line. They always talk about it at school and its profesional people there to help you for free and no names involved. Their advice will probably be 10x better than NS. Good luck
Sep 22 2009 11:54PM
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special_k10101
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i have to say, even though you sound very mature, and this definitely sounds like a really serious situation, there are probably better resources to go to than NS.  No matter how much people are trying to help you on NS, they're not experts by any means.

listen to the guy who posted above me for sure.

i wish you all the best man.
Sep 23 2009 12:23AM
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beowulf
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dude you need to go to the police.  As stated above in previous post fentanyl is a very strong drug and the story that your mom told you sounds like complete and utter bullshit.  And i understand that you dont want to do anything that might fuck up your family or younger step brother.  But if your step dad is on heavy shit like this, when he is tripping balls he may do somthing that may hurt your family in a way that is much worse then a spit up family
Sep 23 2009 8:46AM
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Jib-Life
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the answer is none, that shit is for terminally ill cancer patients.

If you take this shit and your not the above mentioned, you are truly a fucking idiot.
Sep 23 2009 9:03AM
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8ONE657
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i would just like to say i'm giving +++++K to all of you in here with solid responses, we are like a family here and this kid could really use a stable one at the moment. so thanks NS it's great to see you're looking out for him...


to the OP:
i know people have said it before but call the police. not only should you be worrying about yourself and your baby brother but you need to worry about your mom. your step-father sounds unstable and could turn on your mother in a heartbeat and you don't want anything like that to happen. your best thing to do would be contact your closest relative and create a plan, ask for advice, trust me they won't be mad at you and will do whatever they can to keep you both safe. also i would contact some for of higher authority or let your family member do so. this is a really big situation for someone to handle at 15. i went thru something similar at 6 years old and didn't know what was going on until now, my mother tried to frame my dad for drugs and abuse and had him arrested and kicked out of the house. it was terrible watching that happen and i hate my mother for it.

but mostly you need to be strong, don't let this affect you in school, friendships, everyday life. handle it like an adult and thinks will work out for the best. when the police get involved it's going to be stressful and take time to heal. i'll be praying for you and hoping things work out for the best...

good luck :)
Sep 23 2009 9:06AM
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Static
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My wife is a nurse, she says a ton of people use fentanyl at her place. It's not some super drug only the government gives to lab rats. But sure, narc on your familys provider, make life a little bit harder for your Mom. It's not like he's the only man who's ever taken care of you guys. Have fun living with a foster family!
Sep 23 2009 9:45AM
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*Fujative*
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Alright, if you love your brother so much, then you wouldn't want him around your stepdad at all. Think about. Let say your parent split. You brother (Adam?) could very easily fall into the drug world/father could ruin his life. Seriously, either 1. Talk to your Mom. Bring it up, talk about. Hell even if you show it to her and you can find more things to show. Then it would be her choice, not yours. 2. School. Talk to a teacher or someone you know and have a good relationship. Then have one of them work it out. 3. Go to the cops. 16 or not, I'm but sure how much longer but if you want this to stop. Do it. End of story. Again, back to your brother if they split, your little brother could end up having a worse life. So what, his father is in jail. ya that sucks but would you rather have his father in jail or have him have a drug involed life? Ya thats what I think. Hope everything works out alright.
Sep 23 2009 10:59AM
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