I have posted about this in a few other threads, but the conversation about it is always mixed in with another topic. So now it is the focus of the thread.
Back in 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff drafted a document laying out a plan "designed to lead inexorably to the objective of adequate justification for US military intervention in Cuba" (page 7, link 1 )
Which means relentlessly striving for a justifiable reason to invade/attack Cuba. AKA making a situation which makes America looks like it was attacked first.
This plan became released in 1997 because of the freedom of information act and investigation into the JFK assassination.
For those who are too lazy here are some highlights of the planned attacks.
under the section entitled "incidents to establish a credible attack"
2. land friendly Cubans "over-the-fence" and stage attack on base. (Guantanamo)
5. blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.
6. burn aircraft on base (sabotage)
7. lob mortar shells from outside of base into base. Some damage to installation.
"A remember the Maine incident could be arranged" (for those who don't know we sunk our own ship to gain justification for the Spanish American war)
a. we could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba
b. Casualties lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation. (Which means/proves the government uses mass media as a propaganda tool to help manipulate public perception and gain support for a fake cause they created)
Section 4, their plan for Miami, other Florida cities, or maybe even Washington.
Exploding a few plastic bombs in carfully chosen spots, the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government
(Which means attack our own citizens and falsify/create evidence against Cubans to make Cuba look dangerous and get the American public to support an attack against Cuba)
Section 6. An F-86 properly painted could convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of transport were to announce such a feat.
Section 7. Hijacking attempts of civil air and surface craft should appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the government of Cuba.
Section 8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked a chartered civilian airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica , Guatemala, Panama, or Venezuela.
a. An Aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civilian aircraft and would be loaded with selected passengers, all boarded with carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.
b. (after a swap out) The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating it is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.
For those who are too lazy to read
Most people's reaction to such a disturbing plan is to claim its fake. First off, its on a government website (.gov) its impossible for anyone but the government to run a website with .gov. Secondly, people have claimed its fake because they say "it looks like it was written by a fourth grader" To that I would say, find a grammatical error. It is written clearly and concisely. This document was to be easily read and understood. Its not a novel. Writing clearly with brevity is actually much harder than you'd think.
This document was written in 1962, which was 4 years before the freedom of information act. They must believe that it would never become part of the public record
another reaction is to ignore it.
finally you can wrestle with the idea and come to understand that these plans were real. This document provides clear evidence that the US government plans attacks against its own citizens and military. It also shows that it plants evidence. It uses the mainstream media to form public opinion and gain support for wars. It shows that we must look as if we were attacked first and any action taken after was in response. If the US government wants control over a situation, it creates a situation which makes us look as if we were attacked to gain support by our citizens ( and internationally) for our response.
Now ask yourself if this was the first and only time US government has made such plans against its own citizens to create the perception of a threat because there was no real threat at all.
Apply this type of mentality that the government approaches international situations to past and present attacks on America and wars.
(and before someone says it, no i know that there are people who do hate America and would attack it given a chance, but I can not bring myself to believe that every attack on America was done by terrorists and not our own government)
it certainly would have, firing mortar shells at Guantanamo, starting fires in the base, setting of bombs in Miami or Washington. Probably not 3000 people, but still deaths. Is it impossible to believe that the Bush administration would "up the ante" and tolerate more casualties?
plus it still shows that it fakes attacks and creates enemies for you to be afraid of/hate.
Not necessarily talking to the op, but what I find funny about most people "like you" (conspiracy types.), is that you talk about all the evils of government and all the schemes they have, and then go vote for Obama, who by the time he leaves office will easily have doubled the size of what you hate.
i think i brought up the propaganda issue because often when people discuss political issues especially controversial topics people (on NS and the general public) claim that the government is fair and just and never lies and that mainstream media is dependent and represents the truth.
when in fact the government lies, the mainstream media beats the governments stories/stance into your head so much that people become numb and believe anything. and if you question any part of a government account of something you get lumped in with the loonies and called a conspiracy theorist.
Noam is a smart person, ignoring his opinion based on your weak perception of his intelligence (do you not realize how linguists and propaganda can be related) is a joke.
This is not some conspiracy theory the OP came up with, he is sharing information on well documented entities which dont get mainstream airplay because most of you fools would rather watch reruns of "Flubber" at night instead of something intelligent which actually impacts your life in a significant way. You'd rather waste your time following shit like Brangalina or Jon and Kate instead of policies and poltics that directly impact your life.
The entire country could either vote for Obama or McCain. The other options had no chance of winning. And voting for someone that would make Sarah Palin a VP is not a better decision that voting for Obama, however much hes fucking things up.
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Actually TLS, I am not. I am amused more than ignorant. I have for forty years, vicariously I will admit, followed conspiracies from the JFK assassination, to the moon landing to the NWO conspiracy to the area 51 conspiracies to the the most fantastic conspiracy that we are governed by the elite who can shape shift into reptiles (you believe in that one too?) and live in the center of the earth. I have read about how the moon is hollow and is really a space ship. (Do you believe thatone?) Forgive me if I laugh when I hear a new one.
I think everyone should keep in mind that the American Government has done a lot of terrible things and realizing that it has consistently tricked its people and locked them up for no reason is proof enough you shouldn't trust what they say. I mean if everyone wants to get to the bottom of all this bullshit go take a history class, you'll see that were far from good in the world, but at the same time everyone should realize that every country and person is out for their own, thinking any differently than that is naive and proves to me anyway that you don't fully understand how things work and a perpetual optimism in American actions is a fallacy that should be shattered. I've seen a lot of stuff on the 9/11 conspiracy's and the best thing I've taken out of all of the events is that I'm not sure what really happened, why the hell did the 3rd building fall in NY? But it's naive to think the American government wouldn't be willing to kill its own people to promote it's own agenda.
All this mistrust of the government is making me think that some of you kids would like this site. Go check it out you'll find some pretty good things on there
ohhh and anyone who says Operation Northwoods is a conspiracy theory is a total idiot. All that shit that he posted are declassified documents released by the US government, all of it is true and not really that hard to believe.
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No, actually I did not say they were all stupid, just funny. What I really enjoy is the foaming at the mouth when anyone doubts a conspiracy theorist. Internet forums are not a venue for "proving" theories or "disproving" them, mostly because people who post these theories are hiding behind assumed names and their academic credibility flies out the door. Internet forums are mainly entertainment. I do listen seriously to people who will attach their real names to their research and treat subsequent theories AS theories.. Ah, but that will cause THOSE people to hunt them down with black helicopters or over the internet and do evil things to them for revealing the truth about the government lies.
I really dont want to get into a whole 9/11 debate, but try this on for size.
you can claim i am spinning it, i prefer the term apply.
Lets apply the tactics/mentality drafted in the Northwoods Document to the 9/11 situation.
Read section 4 in the Northwoods documents. The government would set off bombs (injure/kill citizens). They would plant fabricated evidence to point to whomever they wanted, present it to the public (through mass media), and get the public to hate the Cubans and support attack against them.
in 9/11 the government claims that no black boxes were recovered from a single flight. There are two flight recorders (black boxes) per flight. so 8 total. They can withstand temperatures of 2000 F. The government claimed that they all vaporized.
Yet, the government claimed to find paper passports, cotton bandanas, and plastic box cutters that belonged to the hi-jackers.
actually i am so skilled i traveled back in time to 1962 to create this document then jumped forward in tome to 2009 to talk about it on newschoolers.
this is a real document, and a very serious subject. NOTHING ABOUT THIS IS A CONSPIRACY. Just trying to bring it to peoples attention. if you want to ignore it, thats fine. dont post anything.
in reality, you are the conspiracy theorist in believing its fake. your conspiracy theory must be that the national archives is in the business of posting fake documents that makes the US government look terrible. GOOD ONE
but if you think its fake, make an effort to prove how its fake, find me another "fake" document on a government website. just calling me names makes you sound like the moron.
I never said I doubted the authenticity of this document, or ANYTHING you wrote. I am getting tired of all these political and conspiracy theory threads. I understand they are entertaining and stuff, it's something you do when you're bored. Hell I believe in Sasquatch..but I don't clog NSG with it.
I understand that this is a public forum and anyone can post here but all this does is create hate, as I have very clearly demonstrated.
It's a shitty move, but it happens pretty much everywhere. The church of England did it, the Catholic church did it. Muslim extremists do it. Hitler said it pretty well. "The people don't realize how much they need to be lied to to believe it"
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yeah youre right, why post about important historical documents when there could be another thread on tall-t's , marijuana, and funny youtube threads (no hate to any of them i like them all)
just continue to stuff empty mindless nonsense into youre brain rather than addressing an important issue. i get you hate my opinions, but do you post in every other political thread telling them to stop?
there is hate in probably 75% of threads,
creating controversy is basically the point of this thread, i knew people would hate on me. But why avoid a topic because some people will strongly disagree. how dumb would that be.
it sucks that your attitude toward is "oh well that sucks, everyone else does it too.... move on" unfortunatly i believe its much more important than that. so you posted your opinion. unless you got something new to say, i dont see a need for you to post again
not sure if this is sarcasm, but I'm not 16, and certainly dont claim to have discovered this information. This is just an easy way to reach a few hundred kids and its free.
as for the mainstream media? this is probably one of the most definitive cases that shows how deceitful our government is with concrete proof. If the mainstream media gave this attention that it deserved it would cause millions to change their opinions about our government. Obviously something the government doesnt want. The government wants you to trust it wholeheartedly.
(I know media outlets are owned by private companies, but if you think that the big wigs of these companies arent in bed with government officials youre naive.)
This document has been part of the public record for 12 years and if you were to poll Americans i would guess that 1-5% of people would know what the Northwoods Documents are. But if the situation was flipped, say if Russia/USSR released documents showing that they faked attacks and blammed the US, our media would never let you hear the end of it. I would bet that the "reporters and investigators" of CNN NBC etc....... probably have never heard of Northwoods.
i forgot to mention that another typical response of someone in disbelief is to attack the messenger (so greatly demonstrated by MSTRKRFT because he disagreed with me in previous threads). Its hard for people to grasp that someone online with no press credentials via a non traditional medium can actually be telling the truth.
if it didnt happen then this is as stupid as saying the CIA is behind hip hop so that black people kill each other (people actually believe this so back off)..... if it did happen, so what? its not like we can do anything about it....
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you already told me about this i think
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but ive only ever been to one rave, and it blew
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not a good sort of blew, a bad sort of blew..... like if the wind blows, and you are rolling one, and it blows all the weed away you know?
Its just the government that does everything it takes to keep us away from the truth.
Media is the most powerfull thing in the world right now.
Have you noticed how many hollywood movies showing the 911 accident (not the way it actually happened, the way the they want us to believe ) came out in the recent years. well personally I have came across 5 , but im sure there are even more.
Watch the video.
If you think this video is bullshit, there are many more revealing as many shocking proof as this one.
I dont feel like posting the links for ya now, becasue you can find it easily.
There are countless websites created by the people raging from the workers who built the actual tower to the architects who planned WTC themselvs trying to bring us the truth.