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why today they are often not considered pow skis:
-short! most(MOST, not all) people wanting a ski to be used in pow that is that short are small enough to have absolutely no need for a pow ski.
-no rocker/taper. Those two traits are in just about every ski put in the powder, and not in the all mountain, category.
-think about this, when Seth Pistols(96 waist?) came out in 03ish, they were considered pow skis. Today, a 96 waisted cambered ski is an all mountain ski by our standards. When Lizzies came out they were considered pow skis, but now that we have rocker/taper/superfats they are not considered a pow ski anymore.
But who TF cares what catagory people put a ski in, use if for whatever TF you want. I started skiing backcountry(meaning 30 minute hikes on ridges going away from the resort) like 07 on 100mm tipped 175 GS skis, and the deeper the pow the better!
-ok, some people place 100+ waist there and I understand why looking at a traditional 1995 ski, although if I wanted a one ski quiver for no pow it would probably have a 100+waist.
-now that isn't right, some designs are just failures and suck everywhere no matter how wide they are.
-really!?? haven't you skied some rockered stuff? and I mean actually rockered, not Solly Lord or K2 Obsethed "rockers" that are pointless sales pitches. Rocker is great.
I think that people are not saying that they can't be used in pow(obviously they can, 110 waist..), but more that they were not designed for pow. Didn't Polalrd say he made them for park, so that he could have a short yet stable and buttery park ski, and that the width is to make them more stable than an 80 waisted park ski? I rode 168 Rossi older version of the S1(80 waist) for a half a season in pow, and the half before that I rode 170 GS skis with a 100mm tip in the deepest pow I could possibly find. I was probably 5'9" or more then and because I know how to ski I could do it, but that doesn't make them pow skis. Then again, who cares what a ski is marketed as? Plenty of people at Stevens Pass are on Hellbents every day, at least half of which are spent in park.
oh and 195 Moships are beast