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Mark abma will save the world

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pat-rickdaigle
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probably not..but bamboo sticks look great.  climate change happens..aint shit u can do bud.
May 4 2009 12:00PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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1 step indeed.

May 4 2009 12:05PM
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cool.
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Abma is doing a good thing. yea climate change is bound to happen but hes trying to not prevent it, but atleast slow it down. if we are heading towards a much warmer climate the best we can do to keep the snow is to do things like abma and help slow it down atleast a litttle bit.

everyday of skiing counts.
May 4 2009 12:13PM
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VTtreeskier
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I love abma, no homo
May 4 2009 12:14PM
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Shewlur...
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thiss
May 4 2009 12:23PM
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Ryno
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I like the green initiative that mark is taking (seriously, its taken this long to get here?) but bamboo skis as "eco friendly" is a stretch considering all the toxic resins used to produce them and the topsheets. Not to mention glues and shit like that that hold everything together.

Smiths idea of using recycled surgical plastics for goggle frames is pretty neat though.

Anyone know anything more about the HH stuff?


The best option for going green is simply reducing comsumption though...stop buying new gear every year! Reducing the demand = less production = real 'green' savings. just my $0.02...
May 4 2009 7:10PM
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mtsteez03
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ya and then the ski industry crashes cause people arent buying new gear thats just stupid
May 4 2009 7:13PM
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Ryno
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So if something is inflated...then we should just keep on inflating it...ya, good game plan noob
May 4 2009 7:28PM
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freelowda
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Pretty much. I also heard that Nicolas Muller was working on creating products with Burton that are either directly recyclable into new products, or straight up decomposable, with the end result having little to no waste.

And at the risk of sounding like a hippy- the problem with the current consumer market (including the ski industry) is that there needs to be huge growth every year, creating an endless demand for new products and waste...we need to find a good solution for a shift into a plateaued market/economy where everybody can all still make a living, but with less impact on our environment.

May 4 2009 9:50PM
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Ryno
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Exactly.

We always strive for more and more growth...why can't we be happy with things being just good/stable?
May 4 2009 10:16PM
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coolhandluke
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..........because solly is the "first" company to use bamboo cores? 
May 4 2009 10:21PM
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backwardsrider
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inflation
May 4 2009 10:25PM
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coolhandluke
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nevermind, i thought this thread was in response to solly's new bamboo cored ski.  now i had more than two seconds on NS and read the press release on 1 step.  mea culpa.
May 4 2009 10:33PM
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Pklink04
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if you can do something that could prolong the sport and help, why wouldnt you?
May 4 2009 10:50PM
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benk
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I still dont see whats so wrong with cutting down trees??

There is more forest land now than when the west was settled. The trees are going to die one way or another through fire, wind, drought, insects, disease..and so on. Canada's forests are dieing off because of lack of fire or management.

So lets remember...
-trees are not going to sequester carbon long term (but it is nice having "eco friendly" people pay for it)
-harvesting trees is like any natural disturbance except it supports the economy
May 4 2009 11:22PM
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Eric_D
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no one will survive zombie swine flu. besides alaskans.
May 4 2009 11:25PM
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N.Skinner
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Depends on the type of management and even then, managing forests does more to hurt the ecosystem than a natural disaster. you are often taking much more out of the system than would happen if the forest had a fire or blowdown event.  Its all very complex.

Not that I have a solution though.

I think what he is doing is awesome.  Its a start.
May 4 2009 11:37PM
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Caveman.
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Regardless of how you feel about climate change its stupid not to try and conserve, as long as its done rationally. Plus everyone hating on bamboo cores, I started riding a ski with bamboo core (ON3Ps) this season and it was one of the best things that has happened to me. It gives the ski a super damp playful feel with lots of rebound and pop. Not to mention bamboo is a grass and regenerates way faster than any wood product.
May 4 2009 11:43PM
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Ben.
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truth
May 4 2009 11:45PM
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benk
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this is true

I think its awesome what hes doing as well.  I would like to see some mainstream skiers get more touring or hiking for their lines considering jet fuel isnt the best
May 4 2009 11:50PM
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freeballer
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why doesn't anyone realize that Liberty was the first to put bamboo in ALL their ski cores over 3 years ago.  I don't know if this is true, but I heard that the salomon only has bamboo in the topsheet and not in the core.  i could be wrong, but it seems like another instance of a big corporation copying a smaller independent innovative company like liberty, but they have the marketing dollars to make a big splash. Liberty was the 1st company to become 100 percant wind power and use bamboo as much as they can.  this is just a jump on the bandwagon type deal. 
May 4 2009 11:58PM
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Ryno
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I love my liberty larose pros in the park...the bamboo is dope for sure.

As far as salomon going green with Abma's ski..ehhh not so much.
May 5 2009 12:02AM
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Pinguu
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climate change happens but as people who have affected it, we can reverse or atleast stop what we have done. 
May 5 2009 12:11AM
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Caveman.
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Im pretty sure Kingswood has been using bamboo cores for more than three years.
May 5 2009 12:12AM
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Klick_2_klaim
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... lib tech, arbour, etc etc etc etc yet another trend started by the snowboard industry.

go do your self a favor and watch Bikecar.
May 5 2009 10:32AM
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nickyp
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correct me if i'm wrong, but weren't Boone using them before Salomon?
May 5 2009 11:04AM
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Caveman.
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May 5 2009 2:31PM
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Holte
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I think I missed something. Mark Abma is making bamboo skis to combat global warming? Somebody fill me in.
May 5 2009 2:45PM
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tride
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Wow, nice priorities kid. "Fuck the environment and the planet, what's really important is to continue promoting rampant consumerism!"
May 5 2009 3:05PM
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carbon.pulse
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There were alot of companies using bamboo before Boone and Salomon.
May 5 2009 4:34PM
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N.Skinner
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read the article...its on the front page...#2 or 3 now
May 5 2009 6:07PM
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currentwestman
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See: FACEPALM picture, above.
May 5 2009 6:22PM
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panojibber
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I don't believe in human caused global warming, and I don't think we can change our environment right now. I do believe in clean air and natural spaces. Whenever we try to regulate the environemt through direct interference with other things we wreck it. Fortunately the environmental movement is at the stage where we are only changing the way we as humans operate to reduce emissions/pollution/whatever, meaning we're not going to screw anything up too badly just yet.

Thank you Mr. Abma for keeping my trees in the forest and my air clean.

Does anyone know what the biggest greenhouse gas is? You might be surprised.

May 5 2009 6:57PM
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Ryno
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Water.
May 5 2009 7:31PM
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MAnderson
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just cause climate change will happen doesnt mean we can treat our earth like shit. it is proven that in the past the climate has gone high and low but that doesnt mean we should go builld some factories and drive our cars everywhere we go.
May 5 2009 10:08PM
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Pinguu
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1 Step
Oct 1 2009 12:20PM
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