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2 On, 2 Out, Switch-up, or Switch on?

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nickyp
Posts: 5673 - Karma: 215
So one of my friends has just converted from downhill racing to freestyle. I've been teaching him some basic rail stuff etc, and he can do a basic box/ rail slide fairly well.

But what does everyone think is the next step up? 2 On, 2 Out, Switch-up, Switch on or something different? i.e. which do people think is easiest, or best for beginners?
Apr 15 2009 11:59AM
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dex.
Posts: 2973 - Karma: 62
first of,f on the behalf of ns id like to say good work on that convert. then id say get him on 2s off first then switchups then 2 on
Apr 15 2009 12:02PM
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Hack.The.Pow.
Posts: 1294 - Karma: 25
Probably the easiest trick for a beggining rail skier is either a front 2 out or a switch up(much easier on box than rail).
Apr 15 2009 12:02PM
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Johanm
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I learned switch on first.

Then 270 out.

Then switchup

And i still need to work on the 270 on.

Apr 15 2009 12:03PM
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MidWestGaper
Posts: 386 - Karma: 12
ive learned to 270 out, almost 450 out, and switch on. i can sometimes do a 270 on but im still working on the switch up
Apr 15 2009 12:16PM
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Gharf
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switch on. But regular switch on with you bad foot first :)

it will  help him to learn how to slide with bad foot

then fs switch up and fs 2out
Apr 15 2009 12:18PM
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garygohard
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yeah

not switch on thats pretty hard

Apr 15 2009 12:43PM
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whitewater413
Posts: 528 - Karma: 215

get him to do the easy stuff like 2s off then get all four 2s and things like that to make him a complete skier

Apr 15 2009 12:50PM
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Dustin.
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I learned 270 on first.  I guess I'm a weird one.
Apr 15 2009 1:15PM
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urbanjib
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teach him to slide unatural...
Apr 15 2009 1:19PM
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tribefan226
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front 2s, b 2s, then sw ups, then 2s/sw on
Apr 15 2009 1:22PM
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meggers
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make sure you can slide unatty before you try switch ups and 2 on cuz you are going to be sliding unatty. but i would say then try switch up and learning to sissor your foot...then front side 2 out and 2 on....good luck dude!!!
Apr 15 2009 1:26PM
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Tanner-D
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I learned switch on first then frontside 2 sev out and then 2 sev on

Apr 15 2009 1:35PM
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andrew.
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i learned 2 out, switchup, then 2 on.  still cant do switch on.
Apr 15 2009 1:40PM
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THEDICKBUTCHER
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i learned to slide unnatural 1st then front side sw up then blind side sw up then blind 2 out (still working on confidence in this one) FUCK 2 ons they piss me off. sw on i tried it jstu feels madd weird but not too hard either. and front 2 out scares me haha
Apr 15 2009 1:59PM
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garygohard
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awe you scissor stuff... awesomme
Apr 15 2009 2:15PM
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207
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I learned sw-ups first. Didn't seem as scary as 2 ons or 2 outs.
Apr 15 2009 2:17PM
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dandougherty
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i learned switch ups first then like butters then 270's on. i learned 2's out last even though theyre super easy
Apr 15 2009 2:32PM
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Mr.Gaga
Posts: 2021 - Karma: 542

2out 1st, easy to jump off the rail doing a 180out on firsat tries.. falling on snow, fucking up sw-in, sw-up or 2in can hurt so fucking bad if you fuckup and get smash on the rail.

Apr 15 2009 2:58PM
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ReetsAdeets
Posts: 1531 - Karma: 611
Definitely a 2 out.  that was the next thing i learned after the basics.  or just coming off switch if he hasnt done that.  also, have him do some 3's before he does the 2 out so hell be more comfortable.  Then probably switchup, then 2 on.
Apr 15 2009 7:53PM
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.oz.
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i actually learned 270's on first hahaha. i didnt know that was wierd. then i learned 270's out, then switch ups
Apr 15 2009 7:56PM
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BigJew
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Get them doing frontside or blind 270 out first, depending on which one is natural for them. Then switch on is the next easiest. At this point you can go for switch on front switch up if frontside is natural or straight on, blind switch up if blind is natural. And then 270 on or switch 270 depending on which way is natural.
Apr 15 2009 7:58PM
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KellyK
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^^same.  exactly.
Apr 15 2009 7:59PM
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.oz.
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yeah man, i didn't even know how to go unnatty on rails when i first 270'd on, it jsut happened. and it was reasonably easy. easier than spinning off the rail in my opinion back then
Apr 15 2009 8:01PM
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traylortrash
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same except 270on before switchup.... id say switchons are actually pretty easy if its a mellow ride on bxox
Apr 15 2009 8:02PM
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Malcolm
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i learnt frontside 2 out first, then switch on and 2 in. it took me a while to get switch ups
Apr 15 2009 8:02PM
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Coalescent
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i learned fs 2 out then bs 2 out then bs switchup then 2 on and then all the rest came after.
Apr 15 2009 8:03PM
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mBall
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Hmmm. I tryed 270 off first but picked up on better. only gotten one legit switch up on an up down box... but id still say start with 270 out, front side
Apr 15 2009 8:04PM
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Alp1ne
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I learned to do 270s on both ways first

Then frontside switch up and 270 out on the same day

Then i learned back switch up and blind 270 out the next day i went up

But if he hasn't yet try getting him landing switch really comfortably.

Apr 15 2009 8:04PM
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mBall
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oh yeah, slide unatural, and land switch
Apr 15 2009 8:07PM
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Ben.
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get him real comfortable landing BOTH switch and regs off of rails.

then twosevs, and switch on, both are pretty easy
hell learn edge control from the 270s so then switchups.
then start worrying about spins on
Apr 15 2009 8:28PM
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Mooose...
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2 out then Blindside 2s out.
Apr 15 2009 8:30PM
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_steezefiend8
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first id teach him how to really lock into a rail. then i learned prtz 270, then switch on, then switch 270 on,, then 270 on then blindside 270s.
Apr 15 2009 8:40PM
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SEABURN
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this
Apr 16 2009 10:59PM
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Silence
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Apr 16 2009 11:03PM
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debrickshaw
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2 out, switch up, i did a 2 on b4 switch on, but onto a butter box so it dont count for shit, cuz i can do switch on to most flat rails, depends how comfortable he is going switch
Apr 16 2009 11:06PM
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Trojan~Man
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hahaha ..dope
Apr 16 2009 11:12PM
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nkinsman10
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i learned front 2 out first
Apr 17 2009 12:34AM
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JamesR
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 same here yo. i learned 270s on and switch ups on the same day. the next day i did my first bs270 out.

Apr 17 2009 2:56AM
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nickyp
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Thanks, thats been a great help, +K for all!
Apr 18 2009 1:38PM
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anxju
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i learned 2 on first. then 2 out. then 2 on 2 out. then switchups. i did a few switch 270s on last year, but i havent really tried normal switch on
Apr 18 2009 1:39PM
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MoistAbode
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she taught me switch on last year which is what i tried first
Apr 18 2009 2:07PM
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Tablespoon
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Hippiekillers. Gogo.
Apr 18 2009 2:10PM
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nickyp
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Definitely this next
Apr 18 2009 2:38PM
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