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Give us racers some more respect

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powder99
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Im sick and tired of the lack of respect given to racers from other skiers. Yes we do have to where spandex when we race but thats about the only bad thing about racing. Were damm good skiers, at least all of us that ski at the FIS level.I don't mean to be rude, but for allaround technical skiing we really can't be beat by people who don't have race experience. We don't spend all our time training, we usally spend our afternoons freeskiing, building kickers and pulling tricks in the park. So im curiose why do we get trashed talked by fellow skiers everywhere we go, things like 'ski racing is gay' and all that shit. I don't know about you but going 135 km in a downhill and hitting a jump(yes there are jumps in downhills) and going 100+ feet is gay. Anyways im just trying to set things straight, cause were no different then all you newschoolers.
Apr 21 2002 1:24PM
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RossiScratch-411
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die racers, get the gates outa ur asses and head over to nastar.com if u wanna bitch
May 5 2002 4:20PM
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powder99
Posts: 2761 - Karma: 12
RossiScratch i don't need to hear your negattive comments, your allowed to have your own opinion, but writting that i should die and that im a fag cause i race is so pathetic, also messaging me and saying that stuff to me shows me what an idiot you are, like i said your allowed to have your own opinion but to threaten me personly is just pathetic, we don't need people like you on this site. so grow up
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Paulou
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May 5 2002 5:09PM
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fakiedropdude
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why is spandex suits gay? OK if you were them when you ski free but who cares in a comp?

anyway. hermann maier could probably be the world´s best bigmountain-skier if he wanted to! that says a lot.

May 5 2002 5:23PM
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powder99
Posts: 2761 - Karma: 12
excatly, there are tons of sports that involve having to wear spandex suits
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Paulou
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May 5 2002 5:50PM
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Line1260
Posts: 1946 - Karma: 14
racing is bad ass if you are good and not a cockinthebutt. I used to race a lot, and still do sometimes when someone needs a fill-in for league or something. its really fun, especially when high


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May 5 2002 7:33PM
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Line1260
Posts: 1946 - Karma: 14
racing is bad ass if you are good and not a cockinthebutt. I used to race a lot, and still do sometimes when someone needs a fill-in for league or something. its really fun, especially when high


'He got fired? What did he do?'
'He jumped off of the roof again'
May 5 2002 7:34PM
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PocketRocket
Posts: 1251 - Karma: 10
i cant believe this thread is still going
May 6 2002 10:09PM
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ski_Bum1080
Posts: 358 - Karma: 10
racers come one the mountain set up there corse blocking some runs and clog up the lift line.
May 10 2002 7:57PM
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gateskate
Posts: 477 - Karma: 11
they also clog up eachothers assholes with cum. TEHEH!
May 11 2002 10:25AM
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ACLs_suck
Posts: 534 - Karma: 11
do us a favour and shot yourselves in the face!!
May 11 2002 12:37PM
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linerider2006
Posts: 49 - Karma: 11
The only gay racers r the 1s who r afraid of air.

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May 11 2002 5:23PM
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RRhighrider
Posts: 2137 - Karma: 1,105
i don't have a problem with most racers. but some r rich ass cock suckers who think they r better then everybody else. those r the ones that piss me off
May 11 2002 5:43PM
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powder99
Posts: 2761 - Karma: 12
i hear ya guys, i don't have to much money to spend on skiing, i hate going toraces and see all these rich guys with 3 pairs of each ski
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Paulou
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May 11 2002 7:12PM
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Almost
Posts: 417 - Karma: 10
I don't have a problem with racers. Racers are just skiers too trying to have fun.. I do however have a problem with the snobby ass people who think they are the shit because their daddy bought them race stock skis and are told how special they are everyday. People need to chill out and enjoy the mountain. And unless you're being a fuck I don't have problem with you
May 11 2002 11:51PM
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BrodyLeven
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not as long as you wear spandex i wont..ha jk. your all cool with me. unless you try to jib and you are only a racer.
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May 12 2002 12:59AM
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$1080PLP$
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i tryed racing once when i was like 8 and when i finished i thought it was soo gay i almost shot myself.... the only thing good i can think of about racing is getting to ski at lots of different mt's
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May 12 2002 1:28AM
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chimprevolution
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racers are super gay when doing 2 foot crap 'japain airs'
May 12 2002 4:38PM
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Beanzerelly
Posts: 208 - Karma: 10
not everyone is good at hitting the big air shit, but at least the racers can go anywhere on the mountain and ski with a bit of style! you might think that racers are gay etc etc but the truth of the matter is you are just jelous that they can ski better than you and some of them can even pull off sicker and meaner tricks! i mean i look at some freestyler's and some of them can't ski for shit but they can pull off some phatt tricks! and just for the record iam not a person that hates freestylers because i actually love watching you guys going big and myself i like going big or pushing myself to the limits!

but stop being dumb ass panzies and putting down all racers because you don't like racing!! if anything at all join forces and fight against people that put down skiing and the freestyle because freestyle skiing is ten times better than what is use to be and more exciting!


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May 12 2002 4:53PM
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Newschooler99
Posts: 117 - Karma: 9
Fuck manenough of this bullshit......

RACING IS FUCKING THE GAYEST SHIT IN THE WORLD

SO HERE'S A STATEMENT

*** FUCK YOU RACING FAGGOTS ***
May 13 2002 8:27PM
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Capurnicus
Posts: 9947 - Karma: 1,886
i race for my school and i have a friend who races (i come grom mogul backround) and it fucking bugs the shit out of me when he says racers are soo much better than freestyle or that freestyle is gay or moguls is gay or short swings are gay. i mean man he skis park but it fucking pisses me off and other kids i race with are WAAAAy too cocky so if i meet a cool racer i'll give you guys respect, but you aren't any better than freestylers sorry. Racing is soo esay anyways.
May 13 2002 11:03PM
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Sanchez
Posts: 255 - Karma: 15
Here is a post I made on another Internet forum a while back that addressed the issue of who was most technically-able to ski what terrain on the mountain. As such, I wholly disagree with powder99's comments...


'To say 'a good racer would smoke most mogul skiers on groomed runs, while a good mogul skier would smoke most racers in a mogul run' is an oversimplistic way to look at it.

Generally speaking, in the realm of professional skiing, people with strong alpine racing backgrounds dominate the big mountain scene. Also, people with strong freestyle moguls, and to a lesser extent, freestyle aerials, backgrounds dominate new school freestyle/park skiing/jibbing.

MY only beef with the debate is to say mogul skiers and their abilities can be compartmentalized into just the mogul terrain, and the park. To say it's just 'one type of skiing' and not account for what effect mogul technique has on skiing the rest of the mountain is ignorant. The fact is, if you took all types of skiers -- racers, mogul skiers, backcountry specialists, jibbers, instructors, etc. -- it would be the mogul skiers who excelled the most in the most types of terrain and disciplines. 95 out of 100 alpine racers can't ski moguls worth crap, whereas 95 out of 100 mogul skiers could ski a GS course reasonably well. The same applies to skiing crud, powder and ofcourse park. In fact, if you can believe it, many racers avoid powder at all costs because they don't want to lose the feeling of setting an edge!

In any event, why don't you go ask Plake, Douglas, Smart, etc. who the overall best skier on the mountain is, and I'd bet they'd say it's the bump skier!'



May 16 2002 8:23AM
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powder99
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Dude where did you get your info about 95 out of 100 racers couldn't ski bumps, let me guess you got it out of your ass, you can't make up your own numbers, and the fact that 95 out of 100 mogual skiers could ski a GS course well is shit also, G.S is a lot more than going around gates, it takes a lot experiance to do it well, also a mogual skier would have to widen his stance before he even came close to a course, all im trying to say is don't make up your own numbers, if you want to bash racers don't make shit up
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Paulou
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May 16 2002 12:24PM
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skipimp_
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mmmmmm beer







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May 16 2002 12:36PM
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Sanchez
Posts: 255 - Karma: 15
powder99, I'm not making anything up. Everyone knows that skiing a GS course does not require superstar skiing experience. 6 yr olds do it in Nancy Greene programs. The fact that there are fewer kids participating in mogul skiing is proof-positive that it's a more difficult form of skiing than racing and that it requires a broader skill set. I am not trying to take away from the skills of the top racers, as they are much better at skiing gates than any mogul skier, and would smoke anyone. That's not the issue here. My point is that GENERALLY, when you put a bump skier in a race course, they will do much better than a racer in a mogul run, and that's an established fact that doesn't need any supporting 'numbers'.
May 17 2002 6:37PM
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powder99
Posts: 2761 - Karma: 12
dude, there is a big difference in skiing a G.S course badly and skiing a G.S course well, yes anyone can make there way down a G.S course even little nancy greeners, but are they skiing it well? NO, there is a big difference in getting down, and getting down as fast as possible, you have to know the right line and when to pressure your ski. G.S is not as easy as it looks, so once again i ask you to get your facts straight
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Paulou
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May 17 2002 7:05PM
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Sanchez
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I'm quite certain that my facts are straight. I will clarify for you further.

Generally speaking, a club level mogul skier will be able to ski a GS course REASONABLY well. That is, he or she will be able to make their way down the course, maybe not in the fastest time, but certainly in a decent time (after all, time is all that matters). They won't beat out the hardened race pros, but they'll make it down and post a respectable time. Why do I say this? Because I've seen mogul skiers enter GS things for fun, and often give the racers a run for their money. I am not going to cite specific examples. This is just what I've seen in my many years as a skier.

On the other hand, my experience with club level racers, in the vast majority of situations, has been that their attempts to ski moguls are met with either abominable technique, a brief flirtation with 3 moguls then a quick escape back to the flats, or an outright yard sale. And that's just the mogul part -- there's still the jumping, too. These are facts that no mogul skier would dispute.

The above addresses SPECIFICALLY moguls and GS racing. Take mogullers and racers to the other parts of the mountain (backcountry, park, etc.) and you'll often find the mogullers being the most apt to ski those terrains well, too. I understand, powder99, the fact that you're defensive about this, and I appreciate that. I have a lot of respect for good racers and their ability to do what they enjoy well. My only point is to draw distinctions when you take those same athletes and place them in situations outside their comfort zones...
May 19 2002 12:21PM
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NoTeefa
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HAHA, racing IS gay, but madd props to anyone that can ski faster than me.
May 20 2002 2:47AM
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NoTeefa
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By the way, I ski downhill racing AND Moguls, and moguls kicks the shit out of racing, but i do both because i want to be a good all around skier. What i cant understand is why anybody in their right mind would want to go up and ski the same course all day to shave maybe a milisecond off their time, dont you get bored? i sure do. On the other hand i feel the same way about the people who go up, build a kicker and just hike it all day. I cant understand that.

And i think we can all agree that aerialists and long jumpers have the biggest balls of them all.
May 20 2002 4:57PM
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ACLs_suck
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ya there ok if they freeski as well. but the spandex screams 'GIVE IT TO ME IN THE POOPER!'
May 20 2002 9:39PM
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