Ep pro's, vs bent chetler, vs, donner party, vs bibby vs. anything else??

oh and im like 155, 6 feet

ARG? kills it so hard in the pow its rediculous...

at your size, 195 praxis powder boards or 202 dps lotus 138s

195 or 202? that seems huge for me. im thinking something under 190 for sure. i dont want like a charging ski.

chopsticks?!?! AND HELLBENTS!@!@!!!11111

Rockered but versatile

By: Carston Oliver
October 18, 2008

Check out the buy/sell/trade forum fr some cheap bibby's.  a

and have you checked out the surface live life 2's?  very versatile ski from what I can tell and some super sick rocker going on there.

if your looking for a powder specific ski that wont be getting into the air too much, you should definately check out the pollard pros.  at your size they would be so money and perfect but I think that you may grow so the ski wont last too long for you.  they are a very soft ski and the best feeling in powder is skiing on these, but if you do grow, these skis will become not as much fun.

Note: I have not skied the skis I'm suggesting (other than Bacons, and soon DP's), I'm basing it off dimensions and flex (I have flexed all of them), so take my advice with a grain of salt.

Any RR (reverse sidecut, reverse camber) ski is a ski that should be the third ski in your quiver.  They are not that versatile (at least compared to non reverse sidecut skis).  You wouldn't really wanna take RR skis in the park, they are pretty pow specific.  I actually got Donners but only cause I already have Bacons and Anthems.

IIf you only have one other ski (I assume it is a park ski) in your quiver I'd say you should have a look at:

       Rockered skis:
Maven (looks fucking awesome, I want to ski a pair so bad)
JJ (looks super versatile, judging by flex and dimensions)
Bibby Pro (looks suepr versatine judging by flex and dimensions)
Hellbent (speaks for itself)
Obsethed (not as much rocker as the above skis)

       Non-rockered sks:
Bacon (I love mine, such a versatile ski, I ride mine in the park sometimes and it's so amazingly fun)
Ruby (Dimensions look pretty good, seems like a solid ski, I can't remember how they flexed)


I'd shy away from Chopsticks, the flex is just a weird ass flex, Volkl just rushed it and it seems like it wouldn't be a fun ski at all, too "thrown together".  Seems like they wanted to make a progressive ski but didn't want to pay for any R&D.

If you already have 2 other skis (I assume one is park and one is a midfat ski, or a ski that can ride pow) I would definitely get the ARG's or the Donner Party's.
The ARG's are a bit stiffer and have a tiny bit more rocker.  Either ski would be a fine choice though.
A RR ski will most likely be the ultimate powder tool, and the DP's seem very very jib'able (yes, I made that up).  Shane McConkey wrote a thing about RR skis and I think you should read it before you go and buy a pair just to make sure it will be something you like.  If somebody could find that and link him to it that would be great.

Just remember that almsot all skis are pretty good quality nowadays and you will have a lot of fun on whatever you get so don't stress this too much.

I cant speak about any of the other skis on that list, but i have bibbys and they kill it. float well (duh), can bust through crud and crap pretty darn well, and actually handle pretty well on groomers. obviously they arent a race ski, but they arent that hard to get up on edge and carve, they just make biiiiig turns. i love em though, i feel like i can stomp anything with em.

well here's my $0.02. You are 6ft and 155. You say you like soft skis and want under 190, and some versatility for hardpack.

both of those skis ski a hell of a lot shorter than you think. really, they feel like they are around 160 tops. the beauty of negative cambered skis is the ski can be really stiff and stable, while the camber profile allows playful butters and slashes. i guess it kinda depends on where you want to mount. if you want to mount true center, id highly suggest getting 195 praxis (these are my new everyday ski and im 5'11" and 160lbs. for reference) or maybe 189 hellbents. if you want to mount further back, id look at a something more like an ARG, chopstick, or 192 lotus 138 (pricy, i know, but sooooo worth the money).

yeah im pretty sure i want a soft ski, it just fits my riding style, im not gonna grow anymore i dont think so they should last me a couple seasons. ive skiied rockered ski's on hardpack and it was alot of fun for me. i really dont care much about being able to edge well and all that, as for stiffness, i like having a little stiffer ski on big jumps like over 50 ft, but i doubt im gonna be hitting big park jumps on ep's anyway, probably just for cruizing through the medium line of like 15-30 footers, maybe some rails and stuff.

I always call them "DP's" though, that is pretty clear that they are Donner Party's rather than dps.  The apostrophe is a giveaway so it's really not that big of a deal I don't think.

some 192 thugs mounted center might be good for you. they will ski alot shorter and are super soft. you can jib with them, take them in that park, do some booters, powder, whatever

Donner's are NOT continuous. definitely flat underfoot.

Soft jibby ski thats good for switch landings and average drops... sounds exactly like the EP Pro to me, though im sure youd be happy with any of those skis. The only thing to consider is that whey can be a lot of work to ski on hardpack and in chopped pow, they perform, but its just not as easy. Oh and when you are doing drops you best be on your shit, if you get in the backseat the soft tails make it hard to pull your ass out. Plus side is, these skis are so incredibly fun in the pow, its juat like you are playing with the snow instead of skiing on it~

blah blah blah, just pick one. theyre all the same pretty much. theyll all do the same thing for you.
god damn i am sick of all these threads on which ski to buy.

ep's or hellbents

haha

Good luck getting either of these skis before sometime in Jan. or Feb.

Pm gear lhasa pow 186 or 196 for the big boys

find out why top atheletes like Ben Wheeler  Eon Jarvis, and others are making this their go to ski

 

have you skied the chopsticks?

they def are not the ski for the thread creator, but if you like charging then they are custom made for you.

it was about time someone came out with a reverse cambered ski that could handle variable snow at high speeds.