Friend of a friend. please help!

Maybe throw a party and invite her? Since you live on your own that wouldn't be much of a problem, when the party is going fine nobody is going to miss you two for a little while...(?)

yo dude, i hear ya. i'm in the same predicemanet. just go for i guess dude, get some alone time. like take her to a movie(thats good perferably) and do activities. i can't stress that enough. make it seem like your a really fun guy to be around, and what ever you do don't be something your not. if its going to work then it will ya know?

Oh! sorry for the double post. but do not be a dick. don't make it seem like your way into her, try to play it a little and see if shes into you before you really make a move

word, that's pretty much what i've been doing. we've been a wide variety of shit too - watched a naked bike ride at our school the other day, went to a party last night, went to the movies earlier in the day... and she's definitely been showing signs that she's into me but nothing concrete. like at the party we were playing kings and there weren't enough seats so she offered me half her chair, when we're hanging out as a group she tends to hover around me if she's not with her friend, etc. shit is tricky, though. i think the party idea might be my best bet.

How good a friends are you with the other girl? Normally I avoid going through friends at all costs but in this case it might help you get her alone if she's on your side, you know? Be careful though, don't do it unless you're 100% sure it'll work because it could fuck you over big. It's always tough when you only know them through a friend because by the time you're good enough friends to hang out alone outside of that context you've waited too long to make your move. Good luck dude, let us know what happens.

hmm... i think i'll wait it out for a bit, i can almost guarantee she'd be willing to help but i do think she likes the girls ex, so like you said, i dont want to take the easy way out except as a last resort just in case it ends up being a mistake. i know i sort of need to make a move soon but i dont want to run that big a risk of fucking it up except as a last ditch effort, i really like this girl a lot, and i think it'd be better to at least try and get her alone first. thanks for the advice though dude, if push comes to shove thats what ill do.

anyone else? i know its not technically in LM but i am ladies men brethren here people, and i am stuck.

female input would be especially appreciated, thats what makes lm so helpful. unless someone has a ridiculously creative idea i think the other posters have kind of exhausted what guys can really contribute to a dilemma with such limited options. id definitely like to hear how girls would most appreciate being approached in this situation, or what they'd think of me going through their best friend, etc. thanks in advance.

you have an invite if you want to repost this in LM

did you say if her friend has a thing for you at all? if you're 100% she doesn't..go for it. I like the movie idea...do a big group movie to keep in on the casual side then sit by her and use subtle body language to show her you're feelin it. And make sure you buy her movie ticket...that will get your foot in the doo' fo' sho.

go get CRUNK! ya herrrd! pop some bottles.

sick, thanks dude.

Get fucking wasted at a party, be a man, and just let that shit happen.

But don't fall in love or anything,  because chances are she will def fuck her old boyfriend on break regardless of how far you two get, assuming he isn't already fucking another chick.

dont take this the wrong way, but i dont see how relying on alcohol to give you the balls to make a move makes you a man. no doubt, im all for the random drunk party hookup, but i wouldnt want to start a relationship with a girl i actually like that way. if i did it at a party, which i am down for, it would be while we were both relatively sober. i dont want her to regret the decision because we were both smashed when she made it.

also, he is fucking other girls and she knows it, she just said she tries to ignore it just like he ignores it when she does the same (although the way she said it made it pretty clear it's very one-sided in his favor). lastly, i am 19, i have been in relationships, im not gonna fall in love just because she decides to go out with me. i think shes the kind of girl i have the potential to fall in love with, but ive never hung out with her alone and we've never slept together... its gonna be a long, LONG time before i cross that bridge. as a result, ive already come to terms with the fucking that is bound to occur over break. shes human.

alright, so although i did transfer this to LM that version isn't in anyones threads yet and i figured out how im gonna do it, and when, and it happens to be tomorrow so i wanna make sure i get feedback before i go through with it. unless i wake up to a bunch of replies saying this is the worst idea since giving keanu reeves yet another chance at acting im going through with it.

we share a class, (i never sat with her in it because i met her a week before classes ended and i skipped that week, otherwise i would have thought of this sooner) and tomorrow we have to turn in our final paper some time before 5:00PM. i'm gonna call her up late morning some time and ask her when she plans on turning it in so we can meet up and celebrate the end of the semester afterward, then initiate "operation: im a pimp and this shit is totally mine (hopefully)".

operation: i'm a pimp and this shit is totally mine (hopefully)
 
here's a rough outline of what i plan on saying. it's corny, but i think it might work.
"can i ask you something?" "it really sucks that i have to do it this way, but i think its my only option... you are the coolest girl ive ever met. i really like you, and it would make me really happy if i could start seeing you as more than a friend."

possible reactions:
- if she starts smiling or something but doesnt say anything, ill probably attempt to kiss her.
- if she hesitates because of her ex, im gonna say something like "if you want to wait until after break to make it official thats cool with me, i know you were looking forward to seeing him and it really doesn't affect me any. i'm willing to wait if it makes you feel better about it, i just didn't want to run the risk of you two officially getting back together before i asked".
- she wants it. im in.
- she doesn't want it. refer to rejection plan.
rejection plan: in order to avoid fucking up the group we have going.
"can you do me a real big favor then? dont tell your friend. i can handle rejection, if we just kinda pretend this didnt happen i dont think it will change anything, but if she knows it probably will and i value you both a lot as friends so i dont want to see that happen"

yes, this is obviously way overanalyzed. just my personality. i am pretty good with girls though, and im pretty damn confident despite what it looks like from this thread, so i really do think i can pull it off.

thoughts?

aww I never knew guys put so much thought into stuff like this. I honestly just started tearing up hearing your game plan. it could be your sincerity, or it could be that I'm feeling extra emotional today. Either way..go get 'em tiger.

well, being the guy that was left for another guy on most occasions, i would say: "stay honest". tell her whats up and that you know shes got a friend.

just dont get a touch at her behind her boyfriends back. i would be a lot happier right now if other guys did the same back then.

and now......... i am going to hit chads with 51 mph to kill myself. too bad noone knows the path guarded by hobbits adn dragons to it

no serious: stay honest to you, to her and to him

i feel like if she kinda rejects or whatnot i would try to stay away from the ex/break thing... and just instead say something like give it time, because i feel like bringing up her ex might kinda aggravate her just because it might be an uneasy subject.
but the entire idea with school is so good. because she will be excited and whatnot.

get in that dude.

well, it isnt her bf. she's made it real clear they're not dating. the best way to describe it, i think, would be exes who still have feelings for each other.

then bring it on home, stranger

Hahaha, amen to that.