they are the exact same ski as they were last year, or so i have heard, the only change is the top sheet. im going to demo them this weekend (22nd) at loveland (in colorado) if you live here come up and try them out. you may have to pay a little to demo them. i have to pay $35 but i get to demo head, rossi, salomon, dynastar, volkl, and i think i heard somthing about armada skis being there too. i dounbt it about the armadas though.