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Summit Expansion Plans - Decision

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coolhandluke
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the summit-at-snoqualmie master development plan proposal record of decision has been posted:

http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/mbs/projects/summit-at-snoqualmie/RecordOfDecision.pdf

alpy: no gondy, no summit food, but the lift up international is a go.

Nov 20 2008 11:13AM
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Literature
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Is the lift going to go all the way to the top of 2?

With both Armstrong and 2 lines combined on there, it should aleviate some of the blockage of lines, but of course means more tracking out quicker. BC laps should be faster though.
Nov 20 2008 11:33AM
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Old_School_Eddie
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According to Figure 3, it doesn't look to me like you could get on the new chair from the BC.  It appears that the chair would only be for access to International, Adrenalin, etc.
Nov 20 2008 12:31PM
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kevywevy
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I can't really tell from the image and i don't feel like reading all that stuff... are they planning on putting in a new lift at hyak?

Nov 20 2008 1:15PM
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Old_School_Eddie
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What I was talking about in figure 3 is on page 70.

I have heard that there is a plan in the works at some point to upgrade lifts at Hyak in the next year or so.
Nov 20 2008 1:34PM
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Brit1275
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Looks like the new chair at Alpy would open up SOME of the BC, but not all of it.  I think thats great.  Alleviate's lift lines, opens up more territory to non-hikers like me, but still leaves much (most) of the BC hiker-accessable only, so we don't ruin the BC for the purists.

Also looks like a chair coming up from the back side of Hyak?  To replace the one that is currently there and non-operational?  BIG fan of that, I love Hyak and there's LOTs of terrain there that can be opened up more.
Nov 20 2008 2:43PM
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Brit1275
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they are adding a bridge over one of the creeks on the central-hyak cross over trail though.

I bet its the really fun one where you're going 100mph, and it dips down and turns hard to the left.  Better not be, thats fun as hell.
Nov 20 2008 2:57PM
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kevywevy
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it looks like a new lift on the right hand side of hyak in figure 2 i think it was. but the resolution is crap.
sean, im pretty sure the lift on the far left and side of hyak that doesn't work goes all the way over on the back side. i doubt they'll ever do anything with that thiing.
Nov 20 2008 3:22PM
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Brit1275
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Did you look at the map kevin?  It shows two chair lifts where the one old non-operational one is now.
Nov 20 2008 3:37PM
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kevywevy
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no. it shows the current operational one, but it looks extended down to the base. with the current short chair, a new chair on the right and perhaps a new chair on the back side. but for some reason i feel like there is already a lift on the back side that is also non-operational. either way, the chair on the backside doesn't look like would really open up much more terrain. and what bridge are you talking about?
Nov 20 2008 3:47PM
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kevywevy
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as you can see in the following map, the broken chair goes up and over onto the backside of hyak....

http://justafleshwound.com/maps/HyakSnowshoeMap.jpg
Nov 20 2008 3:53PM
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Brit1275
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Right fine, so they'll probably take out the old chair, and add a small one on the back side up the top area.  Either way, a chair on the back side.  Small beginner slope back there, I suppose that doesn't open up much cause its just the nordic trails back there.

And yes, look at the map, it shows where the bridge will be on the cross over (beginning of the section that goes down the power line clearing).
Nov 20 2008 4:59PM
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coolhandluke
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^ and thats why we used to have the highest post count for regionals
Nov 20 2008 5:25PM
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Brit1275
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hell yeah
Nov 20 2008 5:27PM
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kevywevy
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we stop posting for the summer and you guys go and let Minnesota or whoever take the lead... god...
Nov 20 2008 5:41PM
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cobra_commander
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the amount of posting by you two is making me happy.
Nov 20 2008 5:45PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Hahaha, this takes me back.
Nov 20 2008 7:59PM
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DangerToes
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they have to do something with the old silver fir lift while they have it, which is planned to go on the looker's right side of hyak. dinosaur won't, if ever, be replaced for a long time to come thanks to the sierra club's insistence upon elk migratory paths occurring between mt catherine and hyak, and the current priority of lodge space at the top of hyak and the base of central. this information comes from conversations with dan brewster, if you are doubting my sources. and don't get me wrong, that is a source worth doubting.
Nov 20 2008 8:04PM
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Jamie_Baril
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this summer they were selling some of the old chairs, i got one...it has been very usefull; i used it to ask this girl to homecoming, she is almost as obsessed with snowboarding as i am with skiing, and it was a hit around the school.
Nov 20 2008 9:06PM
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DangerToes
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nope, those were the old triple 60 chairs, I also have a new porch swing, go figure.
Nov 20 2008 10:17PM
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kevywevy
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are you fucking me? how come sean and i didn't know about this?!
anybody know if you can still buy them? how much?
Nov 21 2008 1:04AM
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Jamie_Baril
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oh, well in that case, jake is dumb, cause when i picked it up at his house he said silver fur, oh well
Nov 21 2008 2:35AM
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DangerToes
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just email jorgensen, or however you spell his name, he was in charge of it. they were charging 50 bucks at the time.
Nov 21 2008 9:31AM
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Brit1275
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Kevin - I smell new living room furniture - hang it from the ceiling beam, would be SO awesome!

I had never heard of the old hyak lift being called the dinosaur until a co-worker called it that yesterday, and now someone on here did.  Has that name been around a long time?

And who are we to email about a chair?  Jorgensen?  Who?  We can haz teh email?
Nov 21 2008 10:21AM
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DangerToes
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yea, that's what we did, except there was a good beam on our back porch, so we have a chairlift porch swing now. I always screw up that guy's last name, but his name is josh and he's in charge of all base area operations at central. I'm sure you can email guest services about him and they can get you his address. I've always known it as dinosaur, but then again I'm only 20 and it shut down before i was born, so what do I know.
Nov 21 2008 10:28AM
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Brit1275
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They wrote back and said they sold all of them within a few days.  Shoot.
Nov 21 2008 1:06PM
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DangerToes
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yea, i just randomly checked the summit sight one day over the summer to see how silver fir was doing and they had that posted. I don't know if it was a size issue, but why didn't they put them on chair 2? the plan is to make that a triple unless im mistaken.
Nov 21 2008 2:23PM
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Gomer_GSX
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About 5 years ago now, we picked up one of the Thunderbird chairs and made it into a porch chair with supported timber. Snoqualmie original chair crew.
Nov 23 2008 2:49PM
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DangerToes
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how long ago was it when triple was a single chair?
Nov 23 2008 2:58PM
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special_k10101
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i think they would have to widen the poles if they wanted to make chair 2 a triple... i mean, the double chairs already bang against the poles sometimes.
Nov 23 2008 5:12PM
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DangerToes
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very true. plus they have to replace i think tower 7 or 8 or something, the one right before the gunmount cliffs.
Nov 23 2008 5:46PM
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cobra_commander
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the more gnarly chair two is the happier I will be, I like gnarly double chairs.

I am still waiting for big chief to take a life or two.
Nov 23 2008 8:43PM
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MC_POUTINE
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night skiing on silver fir!!
Nov 23 2008 11:40PM
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DangerToes
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maybe, but I'm sure you were there for the april pow day last year and saw that line. It was almost as horrid as the lines of idiots clogging the traverse. I'd support a three-man chair and baker-style enforcement personally.
Nov 24 2008 10:42AM
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cobra_commander
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I would be very happy with a baker enforcement policy.
Nov 24 2008 11:54AM
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DangerToes
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so, you think theyll light suicide creek? hahaha
Nov 24 2008 11:58AM
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coolhandluke
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will there be a BC boundary line adjustment?

the internash chair looks like it goes to above knoll 1, near where chip's couloir is
Nov 24 2008 3:25PM
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DangerToes
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^according to the tgr thread on this, it sounded like they were gonna push it back to about knoll 1 and control down through snakedance
Nov 24 2008 5:33PM
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