Everyone seems to have flown way off topic, so let me get everyone back on track here.
FIrst of all, this whole thing is hardly about love... in fact.. the last thing this is about is love. Love happens no matter what. I applaud Keith Olberman for his bleeding heart, I have it too.. but in this case.. love is far from the story.
First and foremost, this is about allowing homosexuals to marry, and file jointly on their tax returns. This file in turn allows easier access to buying a home, building and establishing credit, getting loans, caring for one another "in sickness and in health" (a la visiting one another in hospital), adopting children, getting car insurance.. life insurance.. health insurance.. etc insurance, starting a business, credit cards, and I can probably keep going on and on and on again all the way up to getting a FAMILY PHONE PLAN... lol.
By denying homosexuals the same rights to this is straight discrimination of sexual orientation, and denyal of the equal treatment given by the 14th amendment. I dont care what you say, tax rights are RIGHTS. They may not be written in fine print all over the constitution, but denying sombody the same rights that another, grown-ass, adult person based on the other grown-ass adult person they love, is ridiculous. Like olberman said, we repealed the old laws that made it illegal for african americans to marry back in the 1960's... 40 years today, and we are still treating homosexuals as if they are different. As if they are unnatrual.. which they are not. I have an article for you people who think otherwise should read. Homosexual behavior is evident all throughout nature... and hell.. god even created hermaphrodites and asexual reproduction before the creation of sexual reproduction...
For those of you, who might think "oh, well what if you want to marry your blood sister? or a child? or your dog, or a television set? If we allow gay marriage wouldnt we ahve to allow this too?" The fact of the matter is, that that is a terrible slipping slope to look down. Marriage including children will never happen. They are not adults, and therefore, have no say in adult affairs. Besides... since they cannot vote, there is no way that that would even hit the ballot. Same goes for those who want to marry dogs and Tele sets. You and your dog, and you and your TV set cannot have healthy relationships.. on this planet, only humans and humans can sustain a relationship.
From there we go into the whole line, "well, they cannot reproduce! the whole reason behind marriage is so you can reproduce!". Neither can my father, or mother... should we take away their marriage? My father got snip snipped (as much as I didnt want to know that.. I do), and my mom has been through menaupause. Also, what about the millions of people who are born sterile? Should we deny them marriage? My ex girlfriend in high school was unable to have kids on her own. She was born pre-maturely, and had no ovaries. For I or anyone else to deny somebody marriage based on the fact that they cannot marry, is perposterous.
The only reason prop 8 passed with a mere 52% majority was because of the terrible political campaign paid for by the Mormons, Catholics, and Fundamentalists. They sent out commercials saying that gay marriage would be taught in schools, and churches would be forced to allow gay marriage, and that gay marriage was a "mandatory" thing.
First off, what is with these christian groups paying 75 million toward a campaign? thats obstruction of the separation of church and state - something that IS REAL. There IS SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE... how the fuck else would I have gone to catholic school for 10 years and be taught by uncredited teachers the whole time? Meh.. thats another story. There is sep. of church & state, and those loopholes that allowed this crap should be shut rigjht away.
secondly, when the fuck has anyone been taught about even REGULAR marriage in school? I know I never was growing up, and again.. i went to CATHOLIC school, where marriage is considered a sacrament...
Also, BECAUSE of separation of church and state, there was no "gay marriage is mandatory in churches" bullshit. Churches could deny that kinda thing any way they wanted to. Nobody contested that.
This proposition is unjust, and discriminatory. It was passed only by a 4 point margin. It actually was turned down in northern california counties by a 57% NO vote.
It will go back to court again, and potentially rise to national heights, where a supreme court case might be where it is headed...
I'm pretty optimistic, personally... because judges up there are a bit better at interpreting the constitution than the average idiot. I think gay marriage will be allowed nationwide within the next 10 years, for sure.
