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skithe49th
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Haven't seen it yet but hoping to, looks pretty one sided though. like showing all his flaws n shit. Anyone seen it and care to elaborate?
Oct 23 2008 9:39PM
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Tasche
Posts: 5422 - Karma: 99
What other side are they going to show? All the good shit he did ha.
Oct 23 2008 9:40PM
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babujib
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i cant believe that its legal for someone to make a movie like this, i mean he does suck but still hes still in office so you gotta just back him up theres really nothing else to do back in the day the director would definatly be thrown in jail
Oct 23 2008 9:43PM
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Canuker
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wtf, i thought it was out to make him some sort of fcuking hero. Thank god i dont think he did anything good did he?? like if he was as bad as his son then....well he was a fucking moron.
Oct 23 2008 9:43PM
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skithe49th
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you can't say every thing passed in those 8 years was bad. im just kinda bummed that all they focused on was fraternity life and baseball(or thats what it looks like in the previews) atleast stone waited until after JFK was dead and Nixon was out of office to do their movies. it looks like more of a liberal one sided movie, but i guess thats how stone goes about stuff.
Oct 23 2008 9:47PM
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intifada
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that's stupid of course it should be legal this isn't Iran son.
Oct 23 2008 9:49PM
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Tasche
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Your thinking of Cuba...
Oct 23 2008 9:50PM
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EVAN.F
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i saw it. definitely interesting. brolin was great. it did not necessarily bash bush completely, it does show him to be pretty stupid but by the end of the movie you feel almost sympathetic towards him.
Oct 23 2008 10:41PM
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Ben.
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thats why we live in AMERICA. If bush had his way he probably would throw the guy in jail. Guantanamo actually. Then, thanks to the fact that he has taken away your right to habeas corbus, he can execute you.
Oct 23 2008 10:43PM
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babujib
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im just saying that this is an absurd idea, hes in charge of what your country does, by ripping on him what do we achieve?
Oct 23 2008 10:45PM
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Ben.
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Say that we arent happy about it. America isnt a country of mindless automatons. Thats the whole great thing. we have the right to speak our opinion when and how we want.
Oct 23 2008 10:46PM
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Nicholas.
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i heard that its not one sided, more neutral actually.
Oct 23 2008 11:14PM
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skithe49th
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yea i like brolin's acting thats what i heard too lookin foreward to it.

anyone heard of An American Carol?? David Zucker film basically bashing on michael moore (hate him) it came out october but hasnt made much $$ basically cause its aimed towards conservatives, either way it looks fucken halarious
Oct 23 2008 11:29PM
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freezed
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what, liberals control all the money? i'm confused
Oct 23 2008 11:33PM
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skithe49th
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no dude it appealed to conservatives meaning that liberals wouldnt see it probably, with it being a low budget film and america being more libral in the entertainment field IMO thats why it might not make as much money as say W.

either way it looks really funny
Oct 23 2008 11:47PM
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skithe49th
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Oct 23 2008 11:49PM
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Horizon
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As Americans, we should be the ones to hold our presidents accountable more than anyone else.  We should not blindly follow and support just because they are our president.  We should be the ones to stand up and be the loudest in speaking out against the president if we don't agree with what he has done, not other countries.  And this goes for any president in office.  It achieves the voice of the people, and the ability to say it without being persecuted for it.
Oct 24 2008 12:03AM
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GingerKid08
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Did NS really let this by? I am disappointed. The movie is called W. because its based on George W. Bush who is currently our president. George H. W. Bush is his dad.
Oct 24 2008 12:11AM
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skithe49th
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^ haha didnt even notice but yea

American carol go see it..
Oct 24 2008 12:21AM
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CHEEZ--IT
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i saw it and its not really like the previews at all.  sure it shows him being stupid every now and then and not being able to finish a sentence but it mainly puts most of the blame on Cheney for the war and makes Cheney seem like a dick (pun intended).  it actually kinda made me dislike bush less cuz it shows the determination it took for him to make it to office when apparently his own family didn't think he could.  but ya anyways everyone should see it cuz elizabeth banks who plays laura bush is freakin hot
Oct 24 2008 1:30AM
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doublexl
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to me, Bush is that kid that applies to stanford as a joke, but the gets accepted and is like freaking out.
Oct 24 2008 1:46AM
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skithe49th
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haha yea a buddy saw it and he said all he was thinkin was damn shes too hott to play first lady
Oct 24 2008 1:58AM
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crazyfuck
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you clearly aren't familiar with Oliver Stone's work.

and your post makes you sound like a pompous conservative prick who's pissing on the Constitution.
Oct 24 2008 2:00AM
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skithe49th
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word this is the type of stuff he does...ballsy (actually not really with this audience) but he's bringin in the bank
Oct 24 2008 2:05AM
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Ben.
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i mean. he picked cheny... its on him
Oct 24 2008 3:16PM
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BigJew
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I saw it too. It's pretty 1 sided at the beginning but at the end you really feel sorry for Bush. It puts most of the blame on Cheney and makes it seem that Bush really thought that Saddam had WMD's.


Oooh, and they make Condoliza (sp?) Rice look and sound more retarded that she does in real life.
Oct 24 2008 3:44PM
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anomericas
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Not for much longer!
Oct 24 2008 4:03PM
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Skierguy1234
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this aint north korea bitch.
Oct 24 2008 4:12PM
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J.D.
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The best part about that Michael Moore satire parody up there was the fact that David Zucker was proclaimed the "Master of Movie Satire"... and the quote was attributed to David Zucker.  Surely you could have found SOMEONE ELSE willing to proclaim you the master? Seriously, someone? I mean, even one of the actors, surely, would have... fuck it, nevermind.
Oct 24 2008 5:21PM
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hype
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hhahahahaha ! i was scrolling down to see if anyone caught it before i commented. thank god someone did!
Oct 24 2008 6:40PM
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An10a_Eng
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George W Bush is one of the greatest presidents in American history
Oct 25 2008 4:21PM
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tuna.
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haha ya i'd put him in the top 100 too

Oct 25 2008 4:24PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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seeing how the president is run by his administration (thats how its always been done), i wouldn't be a bit surprised he was told to believe that saddam had WMDs. glad to see a movie that explains this to the people and relieves bush of a lot of guilt that he shouldnt be burdened with.
Oct 25 2008 4:41PM
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Scolson
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I might have to rent this when it comes out.  I figured it would be the same george w bush jokes that got old 3 years ago, but in movie form, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.
Oct 25 2008 4:42PM
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Skierguy1234
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i wouldnt agree because he was the one stupid enough to surrounded himself with morons. its his own fault anyway you look at it.
Oct 26 2008 9:45AM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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people think that the president is this omnipotent being in reality he's more of a spokesperson and a scapegoat. sure it is him that signs stuff into action, but there are advisers who literally tell him what to do. sure he might have chosen the wrong administration but whos to say he knew their motives? he literally has to take their word on situations because all he gets is some condensed report on what the "intelligence" department says. to put the whole blame on one person is very foolish, even if its the president.
Oct 26 2008 12:05PM
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ax_murderer
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and the majority of america picked bush....twice....
Oct 26 2008 12:19PM
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ax_murderer
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the intelligence the president gets is probably so jumbled from different people in and around his office spinning it to accomplish what they want its probably ridiculous. people let power get to their heads and then they abuse it, im not making excuses but i agree that he probably gets some pretty shoddy intelligence.
Oct 26 2008 12:21PM
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pmills
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really? as i recall, in 2000

gore had 50,996,116 votes and bush had 50,456,169

who had the 'majority of Americans' then?
Oct 26 2008 12:30PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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thus the flaw of the electoral voting system. just because they win the popular, doesn't mean they win the election. read up on it.
Oct 26 2008 2:17PM
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pmills
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i fully understand the electoral college and how it works, however do you really want to stand by ax when he says

 "the majority of americans chose GWB as their president in 2000"

this statement is false, they did not.
Oct 26 2008 2:26PM
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Ben.
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once, they picked gore, bush jacked it
Oct 26 2008 2:26PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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technically he's right. it was a majority of americans that voted him into office again. though it wasn't the common american folk, it was the majority of americans where it counted.
Oct 26 2008 3:30PM
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pmills
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what are you retarded?

the majority of Americans does not equal the majority of Americans in the right places, in 2000 bush 'won'  the majority of the electorate, however, say it with me, did not win the majority of the American population's vote.
Oct 26 2008 5:05PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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im not retarded, i just know how the voting system works. toughen up cupcake. thats life. he got the right majority of the votes to win, and won. get over it. it was 4 years ago.
Oct 26 2008 6:02PM
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pmills
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despite your knowledge of the voting system, you've failed your literacy test.

 ax said that the majority of American's elected bush twice:

For this to be true, the majority of American's ie. the population, would have had to have had the majority, read also larger number of popular votes twice.

now 4 years ago, you're right bush had both the electoral and the popular majority

However, we are not talking about 4 years ago, we are talking about the election that took place in 2000, aka 8 years ago.


Now that we're on the same page, which candidate (Gore, or Bush)  had more individual citizen's votes?






Oct 26 2008 6:23PM
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Reptar.
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hahaha i've never seen so many people confused by the electoral college.
P-Face speaks truth. The majority of americans voted for gore. But bush got the people in the right places. thats all.
Oct 26 2008 6:40PM
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BASS_PRO_SHOP
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Gore, but like i said, it doesnt matter. that doesnt decide the president. so i still fail to see where youre trying to debate me on this?
Oct 26 2008 6:46PM
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Ryno
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I was thinking the same thing...haha what a tard.
Oct 26 2008 6:51PM
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pmills
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I was never trying to debate you, i was negating ax murder's point that

the American majority elected bush twice

which is just not true.

We all understand that the American majority doesn't decide the president, however simply because the popular vote does not elect a president does not mean that you can all of a sudden say that Bush won the majority of American's votes twice.

Oct 26 2008 7:28PM
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Reptar.
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hahahahhaha why so serious?
It was a joke, David zucker is the guy who also directed Baseketball, and scary movie 3 and 4. did you take those seriously?

Oct 26 2008 8:36PM
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