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Poles and hand drags

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Rainbow*Stylin
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i enjoy using poles, i also enjoy hand dragging... i was wondering if most people put both of their poles in one hand and did their little tricks with the other or if they just found another way to do it... personally i put both in one hand, but i was wondering if there is a good way to do it the other way, just for those impulse moves... i tried once and it didnt turn out so sweet so i havent really tried again
Jul 24 2008 9:19AM
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General_Shredgnar
Posts: 3024 - Karma: 34
If you have poles in your hand, you have to be going really fast, that way the hand drag is more of a drag than a push. I hurt my hand doing that. Because I lost my poles halfway through the season last year, I ended up skiing without poles quite a bit, and I really liked it. Poles are actually superfluous in the park.
Jul 24 2008 10:17AM
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Parker.
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Main Entry:   superfluous1    Part of Speech:   adj Definition:   more than enough; overabundant; extra
Jul 24 2008 10:30AM
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Parker.
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that was for those like me self who were nescient as to the definition of superflous
Jul 24 2008 10:34AM
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Rainbow*Stylin
Posts: 1042 - Karma: 24
^wow thanks for that... i am glad i am getting all these AwEsOmE suggestions to my question. and the english lesson is just an added bonus...
Jul 24 2008 10:40AM
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andrew.
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+karma for definition

and hand drags work better for me without poles, and i usually just drop them off at the top or bottom of the park if i want to do some drags.  plus i agree that poles are unnecessary in the park.
Jul 24 2008 10:50AM
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Klick_2_klaim
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I indeed like your style.
Jul 24 2008 11:59AM
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MatRich
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I do concur with your position on the current issue, although I am somewhat conveluted about the issue at hand ( litteraly) it would indeed be quite frivelous to perform this feat with poles in hand.I beleive one must be surapticious and leave their poles in a latter position of the mountain, so as to regain them once the task is acomplished.



none of these words were invented, i just might have misspelled some
Jul 24 2008 12:10PM
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i.ski.troll.
Posts: 4692 - Karma: 245
i personally dont use poles so i dont have this problem
Jul 24 2008 12:17PM
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jack.whelan
Posts: 1504 - Karma: 122
i find it necessary to stride forth with the argument pro-poles in the park (superb alliteration there). i tuck the handle of the pole into the base of my palm, leavin my four fingers available for dragging, as aforementioned, speed is your friend in this instance.

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Jul 24 2008 12:20PM
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stormtrooper
Posts: 1190 - Karma: 454
i keep poles in both hands when i hand drag
Jul 24 2008 12:22PM
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Klick_2_klaim
Posts: 3396 - Karma: 25
F for fail... not for erroneous grammatical mistakes.

But for overuse of words out of context.

surreptitious refers to the stealth... there is nothing clandestine about a hand drag... everyone sees it. EVERYONE! Furthermore one must have the utmost respect for the trick or be broken off in the worst way. Frivolity therefore is not an option, commitment and honor must be carried throughout the trick, with a complete lack of care free self indulgence. A trick that could be describe as labyrinthine in nature, byzantine even such as the hand drag should only be attempted by those who make the arduous look rather accessible and asinine.

oh, and poles, no poles? doesnt matter.
Jul 24 2008 2:40PM
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H-Khan
Posts: 47 - Karma: 10
whelan.j your photo is so dope. you must be like so dope. your such a balla.
Jul 24 2008 2:55PM
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Jordan.j
Posts: 847 - Karma: 28
i do them with out poles its easier but with poles its ok to
Jul 24 2008 2:57PM
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MatRich
Posts: 4789 - Karma: 1,812
I beleive u get an f for fail. as in you failed to understand how to read.

1.surreptitious refers to hiding your poles in the forest in a latter ( high ) area. it DOES NOT refer to the trick

2. performing a hand drag with poles would be frivolous because it is not as easy and smooth as without poles

3. your reading looks arduous
Jul 24 2008 3:21PM
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XtRemE11
Posts: 5680 - Karma: 268
just dont use poles??? poles are dumb and annoying, drop the poles and handplants will be way more fun, so will all your skiing.
last season i saw some guys hiking a little qp and trying handplants, and they were hiking with their poles and then they would hold both in one hand and do their handplants, i just dont get it, really, why use poles if they do absolutely nothing at all other than just get in the way? they look dumb and look especially dumb when you have to put both in one hand anytime you wanna do a hand drag or handplant.
Jul 24 2008 4:57PM
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smooticus
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I just push of the ground with a fist while my pulls are in my hands. Its a little harder but whatever
Jul 24 2008 5:02PM
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matt.rad
Posts: 1813 - Karma: 302
Stick the pole in your palm and hold it there with your thumb. Then drag two or four fingers depending on how much grip you need for a trick and how inverted you want to go.
Jul 24 2008 5:33PM
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PhilboydStudge
Posts: 3431 - Karma: 206
for me, i can still do hand drags fine with poles. just have them like normal. make sure the strap is on and wrap it around a few times, and then just use your fingers on the drag while holding the pole kinda with your thumb
Jul 24 2008 6:31PM
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landonn
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just make sure that your pole is horizontal with the slop so it won't catch on anything.
Jul 24 2008 6:33PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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no no sir it is you who fail...

One must first use a dictionary before just inputting a replacement word. Surreptitious does not mean hiding.

Frivolous; you dont know how to use it, so stop.

...and you can not verb arduous, no wait, yes you can. YOUR FACE IS ARDUOUS!

This has been a friendly neighborhood grammar lesson, from your local friendly neighborhood college dropout. Thank you!
Jul 24 2008 6:40PM
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joey.
Posts: 2087 - Karma: 3,337
fuck this thread, im sorry
Jul 24 2008 6:47PM
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SlickRick.
Posts: 4329 - Karma: 300
second!
Jul 24 2008 7:01PM
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cfox
Posts: 2286 - Karma: 40
poles only help u with steep stuff and style
Jul 24 2008 9:01PM
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ginty
Posts: 1073 - Karma: 163
i do them with and without i dont see that much of a difference
Jul 24 2008 9:13PM
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EClay46
Posts: 2499 - Karma: 69
you sir fail

In the context you used arduous, to dis this said rival.  it is an adjective
Jul 24 2008 9:20PM
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jimmer
Posts: 3586 - Karma: 80
i just do fist drags. if you are going fast enough it doesn't matter at all.
Jul 24 2008 9:24PM
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Klick_2_klaim
Posts: 3396 - Karma: 25
ya, youre right.

I did say I was a college dropout though... I think I deserve a c at least.
Jul 24 2008 9:27PM
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Rainbow*Stylin
Posts: 1042 - Karma: 24
this thread certainly turned gay pretty quick.... cool guys, thanks for the input, i really really could have done without the diction off... cool i can use a thesaurus as well and have a pretty wide vocabulary... i usually save it for papers and intelligent conversations not shit about skiing hand drags... i bet you thought it was cool though, so glad you're having fun
Jul 24 2008 9:30PM
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MatRich
Posts: 4789 - Karma: 1,812
oh my fucking god do u know how to read... i didnt say being surreptitious was hiding, I said you had to be surreptitious WHILE hidding your poles  go back and read. im getting anoyed
Jul 24 2008 9:37PM
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MatRich
Posts: 4789 - Karma: 1,812
to reply to your thread in a more normal way: I find hand drags are more fun without poles so hiding them somewhere is important. with poles every time i tried i got a finger banged up. sorry for the dick off
Jul 24 2008 9:39PM
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KarmaSkiier
Posts: 461 - Karma: 6
i havent tried any yet. they look really easy in edits and promos but im sure they are harder then they look. so whats the best way to do one?
Jul 24 2008 11:28PM
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jimmer
Posts: 3586 - Karma: 80
aproach roller/hill/knoll/whatever
lean back on tails a bit
when you are about 2-3 feet from beginning of downward slope, pop, turn 90, stick hand out
the last 90 is the easiest part and will pretty much come naturally
Jul 24 2008 11:32PM
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EClay46
Posts: 2499 - Karma: 69
i do them like this.

go pretty fast into the table of a jump/knoll/roller/whatever when im at the furthest distance i think i can clear at  that speed i jump and kick my legs out in front of me getting my body parallel to the ground and drop a hand down to the snow. i drag my fingers and push off a little at the end to help get back to my feet
Jul 25 2008 2:19PM
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SirFryanator
Posts: 11149 - Karma: 1,415
when I'm trying handdrags I normally just drop the poles for a run or two, maybe 3...maybe 5...
I like to be able to play around on skis without something that might injure me holding me back, except with butters I feel a little more balanced with poles but I'm getting over that.
Jul 25 2008 2:33PM
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KarmaSkiier
Posts: 461 - Karma: 6

thanks +

Jul 26 2008 4:08PM
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jsaya_SagStraps
Posts: 1840 - Karma: 29
excessive speed will contribute to the ease of "hand drags". cliff notes= the faster you go, the easier it is to throw your body outward
Jul 26 2008 5:01PM
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Hubsta
Posts: 1279 - Karma: 156
I think hand drags look sick, but I doubt i'll ever be able to do them.
Jul 26 2008 5:09PM
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