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Durability: Wall vs T-Hall vs Troublemaker?
So I snapped a ski last week and need replacements (100% park/jib ski). I can get 08 Walls, 08 T-Halls and 07 Troublemakers easiest. All I care about is durability. Any input? Don't suggest other skis.
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all three of those might have equally shitty durability....i guess t-halls would be the toughest
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I have used the Thall for 3years man, it is about as durable as they get. The top sheet chips and scratches really easy, but that is standard on all Armadas. Edges and base hold up really well too. They do get really really soft petty quickly though. Hold their pop reasonably well but do get a bit soggy after a season. Soft and playful.
the wall had some real durability issues this winter, snapping and pulling out all over the place, but apparently that is sorted now. I am still a bit dubious about them to be hinest, but their warranty ocks so they will replace them if you have any problems. i think their standard will have to be high this year too, to calm everyone and assure them they are still making good skis. Stiff though, more of a big jump ski.
Troublemakers are good, probably my least favourite out of the 3. They just feel cheaper when on your feet but are have very good durability. personally I would buy the two skis above before the TM, but that is just a personal thing.
Any other opinions on this? Need to make a call in the next few days.
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i almost bought tmers. from all that ive heard the tmers are actually a pretty good ski
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Alright I'll try to help with my insights.
I've seen all three come in and out of the shop I work at and have spoken with many of the people who purchased from me about the ski. I also personally own 07 Tm's.
Walls are pretty bombproof IMO. They are volkl so really stiff and great edges. For some reason I have seen a lot of stripped holes for bindings. I don't know why but my friend had his binding screws pull out 3 separate times.
T-halls IMO shouldn't even be considered. They are great skis no doubt. I had so much fun riding my friend's for a few days. But damn do they chip like crazy. Of course thats just armada's way of making the ski. But i find that the more the topsheet gets chipped, the closer you get to doing something detrimental to your ski.
Lastly, TM's are going to have to be my choice. I've ridden them a solid 2 seasons and they've stood up to the test of time. I didn't take them on a huge amount of rails but they saw their share. And let me tell you, the little black strip on either side of the ski to prevent edge destruction on rails really works. Another great thing about this ski is that they are half sidewall, half cap construction. Combining the best of both worlds where needed.
Hope that helped and I didn't ramble too much
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Honestly, no shitting ye, Walls kick the living shit out of the other two. Far far better skis.
Troublemakers are good, but a bit oldschool in dimensions, walls are dedicated symetrical park skis and are more durable. T-Halls are like noodles, they will last you one season before losing all torsional and longitudinal stiffness and camber.
try it, you'll like it.
Never mind ths thread, I got new Scratch FS replacements for free and scored a spare set of PX14s out of it too.
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WALL FTL (for the loss)
The Walls were the worst skis durability-wise that I have ever owned....both skis cracked in half and one entire sidewall was ripped out (from tip to tail) by day 47 of mny season....
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