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Big Mountain Ski - Options

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V-Pro
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Fellas.

I am dreaming my next ski purchase for my up coming winter in Europe.

I am currently sking Volkl Gotamas. My dream ski would be 190+ and 105+ under foot.

With out doing to much internet surfing I am thinking:

Volkl Gotama 190cm
Armarda Ant 190cm
Kingswood Archetype 198cm

I am not sold on reverse camber skis as I will ski it hard and fast all conditions hard / soft / crap (look forward to any comments) so hell bents, lines I am sitting on the fence.

Volkl Chopstick - Symetrical ski (I only ski switch 5 - 10% of the time, not enough to jeperdise forward skiing)

Having not purchased skis for a couple of years, I am looking for any ideas of what is on todays market.

Cheers for any ideas.

Rock on.
Jul 8 2008 3:59PM
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mmckechnie
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mothership, M1
Jul 8 2008 4:02PM
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JCsteezy
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moment garbones
http://www.momentskis.com/garbones.html
Jul 8 2008 4:18PM
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JCsteezy
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or the M1 too
Jul 8 2008 4:19PM
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V-Pro
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Those M1's look sick:

So going to build up a little Data Base (Please feel free to add to it)

Kingswood Archetype
Kingswood Megafat 198 (Holy Fuck)

Moment M1

Armada ANT

K2 Hell Bent

Volkl Gotama
Volkl Chop Stick
Volkl Kuro

Salamon XW
Jul 8 2008 4:54PM
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AlexMartini
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if your not interested in a rockered ski i would get the Amplid Infra-BLACK. they are an all carbon fiber ski that is absolutely ridiculous... perfect flex, perfect width, virtually weightless, colored all black... what more could you ask for?
Jul 8 2008 5:43PM
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Pastucka
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Here's a shameless attempt at embedding. 

0809 Infra-DARK (Sizes: 183 / 191  Dim: 136-107-126)
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0809 Teddy Bare (Sizes: 183 / 191  Dim: 136-107-126)
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Jul 8 2008 6:02PM
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MtHoodMeadows
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Backcountry outlet has 4FRNT VCT 189 (134-108-126) for $315 including shipping.

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/FTS0013/4FRNT-Skis-VCT-Alpine-Ski.html

My buddy already bought a pair - if I needed a new big mountain ski (I am riding Line Prophet 100s) I would be all over this deal, too. 
Jul 8 2008 6:08PM
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V-Pro
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The Amplid looks like a real nice ski. Stiffer the better.
Amlid Infrablack

Jul 8 2008 6:09PM
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jksl
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infra-darks are soooo sick! those sound perfect for what you're looking for..
Jul 8 2008 6:14PM
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RedBaron882
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check out the K2 coomba in 188 length

Jul 8 2008 6:17PM
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PhilboydStudge
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Faction thirteens. 191 length, 112 under, 140 something tip. super sick ski and design

Jul 8 2008 6:22PM
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V-Pro
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Faction 13 look sweet.

The Combas are a really nice ski, but it has got to be a twin tip

Freeskiers Bible rule #097:
Skiing on straight skis is like gettting a blow job from a guy. It feels great, until you look down.

Jul 8 2008 6:46PM
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LC.
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Legend Pro XXL. If you don't care about switch then fuck the twintip and get something like this that skis nicer than anything mentioned here.
Jul 8 2008 7:04PM
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Matty_C
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191 Amplid Infradark
191 Armada ANT
192 Moment M1
198 Salomon X Wing Lab
191 Faction 13
196 Black Crows Corvus
195 Line Mothership.

That is as good a list as any of hard charging big mtn skis for the alps. Forget stuff like hellbents and KW Megafats- you know as well as i do they won't be versatile enough for the alps, where each run is likely to involve a wide range of snow conditions. I personally think the new Line motherships sound like the absolute dream big mtn ripper in the alps- both stiff and rockered for the best of both worlds. Early reports are good but it may be an idea to wait a year to see how they report durability-wise.

If you do wait, or don't want rocker then Infrablacks or 13s would be the call if it were me, plus it's good to support your local brands.
Jul 8 2008 7:04PM
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Aenigma
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194 XXL's would probably be your best option if you weren't hung up on getting a twin.  Directional skis will ski way better and aren't as wimpy as most twins are built.

But if you absolutely need a twin, you're looking in the right direction with 190 Gotamas and ANTs.  Just keep in mind that they ski shorter than 190, so they don't really fit the criteria.
Jul 8 2008 9:29PM
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huge-go
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Don't rule out flat tail skis.  You said you don't ski switch alot, and if these are going to be your charging skis, flat tails vs. twin tips makes no difference.  Except for more running surface, like the dude above said.  So basically a manlier ski.
And the moment garbones are SICK!  I do believe I will purchase a pair.
Jul 8 2008 9:39PM
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nickwm21
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I was in the market for a similar ski as you are. Ended up with a 189 4frnt vct, just arrived in the mail, and super excited to ski em next season. They were only $315 on backcountryoutlet.com

Skis i was looking at that I would add to your list:
Moment Ruby
Line prophet 100 186
K2 obsethed 189
LP XXL 194
Praxis skis
PM Gear skis (fat bro)
k2 coomba 188
VCT 189
Line mothership
Solly czar

Basically every company makes a gotama like ski that is 100-110ish waist, 185-195 length. The goat got popular and they all jumped on the bandwagon.

Its happened to rockered skis the past couple of seasons too.
Jul 8 2008 10:17PM
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camohard
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ya. legends might be the way to go if you arent really skiing switch. otherwise, I would personally go for either a moment, kingswood or ON3P (ask iggyskier. Im not sure if he has any spots left, or what skis he still has to make, but his skis are pretty much exactly what you have described). the all carbon would probably blow huge on hard stuff because carbon has absolutely terrible damping properties. there may also be some strength issues (I think). I dont remember exactly, so some one can correct me if Im wrong, but I think using only carbon with no glass in a ski is quite brittle or something. I should know this. all I know is that it has the potential to be bad (and $$$), but I cant remember if that was only because of the vibrations or if it had to do with strength as well. Moment, Kingswood, ON3P.
Jul 8 2008 11:23PM
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cobra_commander
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fuck the twin get the 194 XXL's those skis are awesome big mountain charging skis (from experience)
Jul 8 2008 11:43PM
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huge-go
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Also check out the kastle mx 108 next year.
http://www.feedthehabit.com/skiing/introducing-the-kastle-mx108-big-mountain-fat-ski/
http://www.biglines.com/blarticles/4086/Kästle_Unveils_New_High_Performance_Freeride_Ski
Jul 9 2008 12:14AM
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V-Pro
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Had a big vote of aproval for the kinswoods from a mate:
kingswood 198's are the best ski ever made. Period. Skied 'em all last winter and loved em so much bro. I mounted them quite foward and they rock skiing pow, switch pow, jumpin, straightlining, everything.
This tread is getting me so pumped about skiing this season - yea ha.

So many great looking skis above. cant wait to get on the internet tonight and school up on all of them

Binding wise - Do I go for the marker dukes on the new skis or do I put the dukes on the gotamas and put my comp 20's on the new skis. If only life was all about making decisions like this, and not having to got to work!
Jul 9 2008 4:20AM
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LC.
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Eh... put the Dukes on the ski you want to tour on?
Jul 9 2008 12:29PM
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shortdawg
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Obsethed has a 105mm Underfoot and comes in 189cm. They'd kill it anywhere, and are an amazing big mountain ski. Just look at the guy who designed them.
Jul 9 2008 1:13PM
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MarkieR
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195 line mothership. that's what i'll be spending my winter on. sounds like it would be right up your alley.
Jul 9 2008 4:23PM
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mike_d
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Second on the mothership 195s.
I compete in big mountain and this will be my ski for next year...long fat stiff, but also has some early rise in the tip, and prolly a little more freestyle oriented than some of the other big mtn skis out there....should be sick. Ill prolly get the 185 and 195
Jul 9 2008 8:32PM
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shortdawg
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Mmmm dynastar legends?
Jul 9 2008 8:53PM
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Oetk
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you could check out a rossi b-squad if your looking at non twin tips, or the 4frnt EHP's, they look like a fun ski
Jul 10 2008 2:27PM
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