exactly. they've got the beginner to intermediate stuff nailed with freedom and widow, and they've done a great job with that. boulder was good, and the jumps were nice, for PA, but what papa and kevin are saying is that, although they're good for around here, they're not up to par with stuff you find at park city, aspen, keystone, breck, whistler, stratton, etc. where a lot of the big events are. they've got every level of progression covered except for those who legitimately want to take their game to the pro level, and there are a pretty good amount of kids at boulder who really could take it there. papa was just citing a few as examples. i wouldnt put myself on the same level as jon or kev, but i've got more experience riding park than almost everyone up at boulder, and i agree with them that, when you're hitting bigger features like what boulder park could be, a little more time, thought, and care could be put into making jumps in the 50-60 foot range both better to learn on for those of us who are pushing ourselves in that respect, and also safer for those of us who are just beginning to get comfortable on jumps of that size. 50 foot stepdowns are not the way to do that. jumps like the JOI jump, stuff from super sessions, and stepover style jumps in general inherently have lower consequences if you do come up short, and can provide much longer, steeper landing than can be achieved with stepdowns. the first jump on boulder park closing weekend is a prime example of the right direction to take with building jumps. you just couldnt get speed for it.