Rocker Ski Info Thread

well the JP Julien is going to rip ahhviously

email reply from tyson

Nick,

 

Thanks for dropping us an email.  Like the Hellbent, or any other rockered ski, the 09 JP/Julien will ski shorter than its advertised length.  Additionally, next year’s JJs will no longer be a 188 and 178; rather, they will be measured out at 185 and 175.  If you are comfortable in the 182-185cm length I would recommend the JJ 185cm for you.  One thing to keep in mind, especially when purchasing the JJ is that the 09 model has some major differences in rockered skis of the past.  The two major differences lay in the fact that the JJ has a longer running surface and a much deeper sidecut under boot than other rocker skis on the market.  Essentially you are getting the best of both worlds as the JJ combines a shorter ARV sidecut under boot, while incorporating an ARG rocker in the tip and tail.  We are confident that the JJ will be the ultimate resort powder ski as it floats high in deep in snow and carves turns on groomers with absolute ease.  Hopefully this helps you out, if you have any further questions please let me know.  Thanks again.

 

Tyson Hall

I guess I'll bump once more people have tried them out.

Also

Volkl: Kuro
Salomon: Czar and Lord

I think im getting the chopsticks next season through work. I need to email the rep through work.

135-115-135. Slight rocker. Soft. Very poppy though.

moment skis are the best .PERIOD.

i thought they were wider underfoot, like 122

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/content/reviews/action/read/id/677/

My review of Hellbents.

dude, i'm not hating because i love moment too, but it doesn't seem like you've ever even ridden a pair before.  i've seen you post numerous times in various threads both in the moment skis cult and in this forum... should i get the fast fries?  how stiff are they?  oh, i'm big enough to ride a 170?  well how are the jibs? how are the tahoes? do you have any pictures of the bases of the tahoes?  am i really going to be okay on 170's?  or should i go with the jibs?  are they stiff or soft? 
anyways, you get the picture.  i just find it mildly humorous.  ;)

Moment-bibby, donner party, reno rocker, m1 rocker, melee
Salomon-czar, lord, rocker
Rosignol- S7
Line- Ep Pro
Armada- JJ, ARG
Faction-Thirteen, Royale
Praxis Pow
PM Gear BRO rocker
Volkl-Kuro, Chopstick
K2- Hellbent, Seth
Black Diamond Megawatt
4frnt EHP

your both wrong

148-128-148

they are, it may be 145-125-145, this is why this thread is needed.

chopstick is 148-128-148

kuro is 164-132-139

heres my melee review.  though they are no longer in production...

Me-6'1" 155lbs, Expert, likes trees, and steeps.
Ski - Moment Melees w/ solly z12s mounted true center
Conditions - two feet of fresh, heavy powder, more or less tree skiing
Skis I like -- Ruby 188, JJ's 188(?), ARV's 185, K2 AK enemies
Dislike - Big troubles, Gotamas

Construction - Yes, bomber, bases especially.  This was opening day at our mountain and we definitely didn't have full coverage, yet there wasn't even a scratch on the bases.  Topsheets didn't take too hard of a beating and there wasn't much damage there.  With having one of the lightest bindings on them, it felt like there was hardly anything on my feet. 

Fairly easy to ski.  The rocker took some getting used to;  just staying away from back seat in the pow (who woulda thunk it?).  They are suuper soft and plus the rocker makes them feel even softer, but they still handled considerably better than expected.

Groomed - There wasn't much corduroy to ski yesterday but on hardpack i wasn't so impressed.  Once I got to about 30 (roughly) they started gettin pretty squirrelly.  I didn't take them much past that mainly because my din was set way too low and they already felt like they were about to fly off. heh but they were still able to hold an edge when needed, though a little extra effort was also a factor.

Bumps - well every damn runout was bumpy yesterday.  If there wasn't some fresh snow on top you really had to work to control the skis.  my thighs were killin me by the end of the day.

Trees - Epic.  That's all I really need to say.  I was skiing the rubies in the morning and they were actually quit comparable.  Great float, easy control and landing switch was not one bit of a problem.  The main difference was that I had to stay away from backseat or I'd just slide out on my ass, I assume due to the rocker.  They opened the second half of our mountain around noon and that gave us that whole side with two feet totally untracked.  The rest of the guys were complaining about the heavy snow but the Melees tackled it wonderfully. 

For a pow ski I'd say 10/10
For overall I'd say 8/10 due to the instability through the hardpack.  I will note though that the instability was not from the tips flopping around.  it was from the skis moving side to side over the snow from lack of edge grip.  All I might need to do is keep on an edge, snowboard style or something like that.