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Does cap construction really suck?

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mccsteezy
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some one recently said that cap construction sucks. and im not shure if it realy does. my skis are cap and i love em, but my friend has sidewall and has cracks and big chips out of em. is there really a difference? lets see what you have to say newschoolers

Feb 19 2008 5:38PM
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Triple_Strum
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It really just depends.  I've skied some crappy cap construction skis, but I also really loved the scratch bc in '07 which i believe was cap. Soooo
Feb 19 2008 5:42PM
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anxju
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why would it suck?
Feb 19 2008 6:24PM
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lyndon
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I hate it when people spell "sure" "SHURE." It drives me nuts.

Onto your question: I find sandwich(sidewall) skis are stiffer, but thats not always true. My Armadas are sidewall, and they chip like crazy. My Sprayers are cap (rossitop) and they never chip.
Feb 19 2008 6:28PM
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mccsteezy
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^ok sure.

and i find that armadas chip alot, but my salomons dot chip just little scrapes and stuff.

Feb 19 2008 6:50PM
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shabinka
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Shure, don't buy Fischer Addicts FOR SHURE! Well, they're a super sick ski, but the top sheets chip like a mofo fo shure. If you combine my topsheet, with this other person who has addicts i saw up at killington we would have about 1/4 of a topsheet left.
Feb 19 2008 6:52PM
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bret
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no, they don't suck.
Feb 19 2008 6:58PM
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poofartpee
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people who say cap or sandwich constructions sux are stupid

its just the way the out side of the ski is built...cap is cheaper to construct yes
but sandwich does not have a performance value that can be really noticed...

so i say this for all NS
dont make decisions on skis because of cap and sandwich construction
Feb 19 2008 7:34PM
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=nick=
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yeah ARG's are cap construction so they must suck, ahhhviously
Feb 19 2008 7:49PM
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Silence
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You may notice a difference on a set of carve skis
Feb 19 2008 7:53PM
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e.will
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aren't they just wrapped?

i thought they, like the surface's, were abs sidewall construction with 3-d wrap.

idk, i don't really know that much, except my nordica sparks are poopy skis, and i dont think it's because they are capped.
Feb 19 2008 7:56PM
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Aenigma
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In the park, yeah, you probably wouldn't notice.  But out skiing the rest of the mountain it can make quite a bit of difference.  Cap skis will start a turn slightly quicker, but sidewall will hold an edge noticably better.  Each type has its pros and cons, and there have been several threads already with enough information to make an informed decision of how important it is to you.  For what it's worth, I try to buy only sidwall skis unless they're for touring, then it doesn't matter as much.
Feb 19 2008 7:56PM
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Bigwoods
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For some reason the look of a white or any colored sidewall looks sick. Plus i'd guess that cap construction takes a bigger beating, cause you can see the top sheet peeling where as.. Ok i'll stop, i lost my train of thought.
Feb 19 2008 8:02PM
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B.Snow
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Nah cap doesn't suck. I can name plenty of dope skis that a cap ... Dumonts, vaders, anthems, spk's ... It kind of just depends on what you're looking for and personal preference.
Feb 19 2008 8:11PM
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yeahitsdave
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i like both.

and the 07 bc's were slant wall, its a 45 degree sidewall
Feb 20 2008 1:47AM
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InitialG
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I like my cap skis, and I like my sidewall skis, I can't tell a difference between them due to the construction, and both chip so its not like one is noticeably better than the other.

Feb 20 2008 1:54AM
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PacificRimJob
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It depends.. the line chronics for years were cap, and those were bombproof..

same with the line prophets...

same with the salomon 1080 line and the dumonts, etc...

and from what I hear, new companies like surface are doing well with the watchlife...

also, the armada El Rey is pretty good so I hear...



Cap doesnt mean sucky.. it just means.. constructed different.
Feb 20 2008 1:59AM
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buchanan.
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my buddys anthems are chippin like maaadd, its alittle discourging.
Feb 20 2008 2:00AM
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PacificRimJob
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Hes just riding them hard. Dont worry.

Feb 20 2008 2:08AM
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Love_Wins.
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I've owned both and the difference is not as big as people make it seem.
Aenigma is right, generally speaking sidewall skis hold a harder edge, but cap skis bite quicker on initiation...so it's a tradeoff.
As far as durability goes, just depends on the company and the ski...My ARVs (sidewall) seem to chip a lot easier than the Prophet 130s and Mike Nicks I had (both cap)...so it just depends. I have no problem riding either style as the both perform the duties I expect when riding...which is to make me smile.
Feb 20 2008 2:19AM
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buchanan.
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yeah he deffinatly is, but having wood showing for 2 1/2 feet up both skis just doesnt look the greatest.
Feb 20 2008 2:24AM
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mccsteezy
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yeah my 1080s are preaty bomb proof.
Feb 20 2008 2:33AM
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PacificRimJob
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repair it with boat sealant.
Feb 20 2008 2:37AM
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