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Slopestyle X-games hatveit's run vs candide last year

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vosgcone
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http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Hxvl5B008
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=V9d4bMO50eE
*candide or hatveit?
i think hatveit is a very technical rider but candide is wayyy smoother!look the transition, no move, no hand,sooo effortless...candide's run is beautiful whereas andreas run is pretty difficult but with less style
so i think candide's run 1 year ago was a better run
what's your opinion?
Jan 28 2008 11:47AM
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colin13
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i think candide would have won this year. he always has tricks hidden up his sleeve that he whips out in competitions.
Jan 28 2008 11:49AM
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Mr.O
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yeah i agree because last year the rails added more style and technicality; last years course just mixed it up as apposed to this year where there was just 2 boxes and 4 jumps in a row.....

but looking at the 2 runs its hard to tell, it all depends what you would jude on (style or technical difficulty)

but i like candide's run from last year not to take anything away from andreas
Jan 28 2008 11:51AM
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skodeo7
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Candides slope run last year was one of the sickest things I've ever seen on skis. I was literally jumping up and down when I saw him stomp his last trick. So dope. I love Candide.
Jan 28 2008 11:53AM
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-+Siver+-
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too bad he wasn't able to compete this year that was sad
Jan 28 2008 11:56AM
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andy_boy
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I think last year's course allowed for more impressive runs, despite the speed issues.
Jan 28 2008 11:59AM
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123ski
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I think Andreas had a much more technical run, more unnatrual spins and doper grabs. 
Jan 28 2008 12:17PM
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skiP.E.I.
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Candide is smoother for sure, ANdreas more technical like everyone said. Candide's landings are a lot nicer too. Andreas's landings are pretty wishy-washy sometimes and he is a bit sketchy with the landing on that first box with his 450 on, just kinda slides off to one side, whereas Candide's rail/box landings are super smooth.
Jan 28 2008 12:21PM
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jfbolieuvaldi
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all look easy for dandide but is it me or thovex do blunt tailgrab all time??
Jan 28 2008 12:33PM
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*DrewT*
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Andrea's run was ridiculous, what could he have even done to make it better?  I thought it was pretty smooth personally
Jan 28 2008 12:39PM
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Tapes
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in my opinion andreas' was a bit better. they were both pretty equal.
Jan 28 2008 12:55PM
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skodeo7
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I agree Andreas run was unreal, I'm just saying that overall, I was way more stoked when I saw Candides run. I guess I just really wanted him to prove to the rest of the world that he is one of the greatest skiers of all time. He deserved that shit. Such a pioneer of our sport.
Jan 28 2008 1:13PM
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BrownEyeIn
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he did the same fucking grab on every feature. all high mute/nose
Jan 28 2008 2:08PM
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e.will
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andreas is a beast, so as for his landings, of course they are gonna be a little wishy-washy, he weighs like 200 pounds. those rossi's like folded on every landing.


he must break so many skis in a season.
Jan 28 2008 2:12PM
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freeskibum82
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natural vs unnatural becoming just like backside and frontside in snowboarding.. its becoming not as big of a deal.. candide for sure.
Jan 28 2008 2:21PM
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Line0777
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I like Candides just cause of the rails. They need more then just 2
Jan 28 2008 2:25PM
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Armanzoid
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Candide's run was a once in a lifetime sort of run. Probably one of the best, ever.
Jan 28 2008 2:31PM
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Owen.
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Candide threw down on the rails alot smoother than Hatveit did (he almost misses the first box.. I think...)
And his transitions etc. are alot smoother....
But personally I think Hatveit did better on the jumps, it could just be the speed issues from last year, but it looked like he was going bigger
Jan 28 2008 2:33PM
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manemis
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Hatveits run is soooooooo much more technical! Def. better! candide only did one unatti sw 7... Hatveit did unatty 9 nose and sw unatti 10 ! fucking sick!
Jan 28 2008 4:49PM
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TheQuailman
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Candide was more stylish and incredible on the rails.  Hatveit did bigger tricks with more spins and harder grabs but the jumps are bigger this year so it's unfair to judge.
Jan 28 2008 4:57PM
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Schoening
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really hard to judge on two really different courses. personally i like how andreas spun big both ways.
Jan 28 2008 5:07PM
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freezed
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candide's run was soo sick. he STOMPED every landing, he landed so clean on everything, and his switch 10 at the bottom was so smooth i thought it was a 7 the first time i watched it.
Jan 28 2008 5:08PM
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ArmadaFreerider8
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i felt the exact same way. I mean you look back from the start and how much he has done, it was just really good to see that even after all those years he was still the best
Jan 28 2008 5:08PM
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Blurst
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i loved both of the runs
i liked the setup of last years just because of the rail setup in the middle to mix it up
even though hatviets jumps were more technical candide went 810 on to the box and slid the whole thing, hatviet went 450 on and fell off
candides run had more flow i would say which i think is a main factor in the overall impression and i liked how he hit the gap jump regular to switch it up and not switch on evry jump
Jan 28 2008 6:58PM
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Matty_C
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word, candide has been responsible for so many landmark moments in the development of freeskiing. the man is a true pioneer. he, jon and tanner are by far the top 3 freestyle skiers ever. nobody else even comes close.

on a slightly different note, speaking to his mum at x after he was booed (which was disgusting), tanner, understandly bummed, said "it's so disappointing after everything i've done for freeskiing to get booed"...

NOW, don't get me wrong, tanner is the best pipe skier ever and arguably the best comp skier period, but has he really done that much for our sport, other than be insanely good at it? compare him to jon or candide whose work FOR our sport is easy to see, and it's hard to think what tanner has actually DONE to compare. sure he's at the forefront of pipe riding, but i can't really think of too many moments where tanner actually did something pioneering of something people would have perviously thought impossible...

hate if you want, but anyways, discuss...

Jan 28 2008 6:58PM
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colin13
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1. he is helping in progressing half pipe skiing as he said. mixing up his run with right left switch forward etc.

2. he has generally been a great role model for those out there taking up freeskiing.

3. he was the co-founder of ARMADA for fucks sake

4. switch 9 chad's gap? previously thought impossible? yup.

5. helping in pushing freeskiing into the BC

6. I remember in some warren miller film he was on the cutting edge of the olympic freeskiers pushing for inverted stuff.

7. Most golds (tied with shaun white) in winter x-games.

Dude, come on! He has done a lot more stuff for this sport than I mentioned above. OF COURSE he has been a pioneer of our sport!
Jan 28 2008 7:07PM
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table_top08
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for sure i felt the same way. i always have wanted to see him win at x and i was so pumped when he did. and as for the two runs i think candide was better overall. he is way smoother on and off the boxes and how could you not just love the style?
Jan 28 2008 7:27PM
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ValPow
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the work he has done for the sport has changed drastically in the last couple of years. As he is no longer on the freestyle circuit, his work in terms of progression (in that aspect) has fallen away. 

However with his movies he pushing new aspects of skiing as using his name as a marketing tool in his movies (not a bad idea at all). The guy is one of the sports greats, even the best freestyle skier the world has ever seen, he has done so much good for the sport over the years.

If i had done all that he has done and then got booed after winning the x games, i would be seriously pissed off, it wouldnt surprise me if he didnt compete next year becasue of it. 

All the booing has done is give skiing a bad name and made one of our pioneers pissed off, the whole thing is a complete farce 
Jan 28 2008 7:28PM
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huntpip29
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ill take andreas, i think it was a bit better

Jan 28 2008 7:52PM
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Matty_C
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yeah, you're right, dunno what i was thinking. tanner is definately a legend : )

Jan 28 2008 8:08PM
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tjski
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hatvite still wouldve won this year i think, but this years slope set up sucked...there was pretty much just 1 rail, and "the cannon" but that shouldnt count as a rail...
Jan 28 2008 8:31PM
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poofartpee
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Andreas was way more tech
Candide was deff smoother

draw
Jan 28 2008 8:34PM
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ValPow
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i really liked andreas' second run, soooo much style

would he have beaten candide with his run last year? dunno not for me to decide, loved them both
Jan 28 2008 8:37PM
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SkiGiant
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Candid would have won this year he's got so much style and he makes it look so effortless
Jan 28 2008 8:38PM
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jacobg
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y didnt candide compete this year
Jan 28 2008 8:38PM
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Edward.
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yea i agree with what most people said in here. andreas is tech, candide is smoother. but serously you cant really compare those two runs to each other because its not eh same course
Jan 28 2008 8:38PM
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colin13
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he broke his back last year at the candide invitational so he is still sort of recovering from that and he has decided to retire from comps now create even more epic segments with enjoy studios.
Jan 28 2008 8:42PM
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CorkWormTurn
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I agree that Candide's run was better.

That said, I don't think comparing comp runs between different comps has much meaning. Comps aren't about what tricks you have the ability to do, it's all about what you throw down that day, on that course, against the other people competing. The circumstances and the course are pretty different from year to year and comp to comp.
Jan 28 2008 8:51PM
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gabfreeski
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I think last year candide run was better
Jan 28 2008 8:56PM
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PhaedeD
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candide although not my favorite is prolly the best.
Jan 28 2008 10:08PM
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saucer_boy_lives
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cant judge son, two completely diff. courses.
Jan 28 2008 11:31PM
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Parker.
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both are sick, but candide makes it look so effortless.  i'd pick the frenchman
Jan 28 2008 11:57PM
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FUUUCK
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exactly
Jan 29 2008 12:03AM
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PhaedeD
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one thing you can be sure of is that candide would find a way to bio or cork onto that up flat down and he would do something nuts off that box to air thing and well his jump game is on point and almost no one can touch it unless you are just busting double flips.
Jan 29 2008 12:25AM
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liftedresearcher
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both runs were sick. candide killed everything, the jibs were sick. this year was more of a jump course tho.

id take candide.

also, am i the only one to notice that everyone had a helmet this year im pretty sure, did they make them mandatory, or is it rider choice? cause candide wasnt wearing one last year. not that it matters but im kinda curious.
Jan 29 2008 12:39AM
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C_Nelson
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def andreas he held hes grabs unlike candide who didnt really hold any of his grabs!!!!
Jan 29 2008 1:02AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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Andreas' run had 2 switch 10s spun both directions and a switch 12 grabbed. Candide had a good run, but Andreas had better style and harder tricks on the jumps. You can't compare the rails because the courses were set up so differently.
Jan 29 2008 1:38AM
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snowbladesforlife
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Candide's run wouldn't have been top 5 this year.
Jan 29 2008 1:49AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I agree.
Jan 29 2008 2:02AM
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