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skialpental
Posts: 248 - Karma: 38
at snoqualmie in between central and west their is a big powder field in the trees has anyone skied it ever as i have been tempted before. I thought it was the site of the mountaineers lodge but it burned down and the ski area at that site closed in 02. So if anyone has skied it is it possible to ski it all the way to the road and then walk back to the ski area.
Jan 21 2008 12:17AM
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cobra_commander
Posts: 16909 - Karma: 4,682
I like your thinking, worth investigating.
Jan 21 2008 12:22AM
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shawnm1260
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yea, but dont ski it. snoqualmie will attempt to pull your pass if your not cool with certain people. so just yea, dont ski it.
Jan 21 2008 12:26AM
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skialpental
Posts: 248 - Karma: 38
well technically its not owned by snoqualmie so can they really do anything. I might try it tomorrow because the 9 inches last night that got skied out by now will still be sitting around in those trees.
Jan 21 2008 12:32AM
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A-Style**
Posts: 1831 - Karma: 81
first things first tho- smoke a dub. makes it soooo much more enjoyable
Jan 21 2008 1:23AM
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P.J.S.
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I saw some tracks through there last month after a good storm. Never ventured in there though.
Jan 21 2008 3:44AM
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ShreddingthaGnar
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After the pow was gone at alpy yesterday morning i headed over there. Its really nice,  but the trees are really thick. Its a lot like skiing the  hyak powerlines down to the road, just follow the fall line and you can walk back on the road.
Jan 21 2008 3:08PM
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psychkub
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This might seem like a lame question, but with it being a wide open face, is there any avi potential there?
Jan 21 2008 4:26PM
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coolhandluke
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a big open face downhill of trees is a classic slide point, because a slab avalanche could propagate its crown along the weak layers that probably exist around the trees at the uphill edge of this face.

if it slides, it could be bad or worse: if the inertia of the slab avalanche flowing downhill is low, it may slow up and stop when reaching the bottom trees, and you're only partially buried (bad).  or if its got a high inertia coming downhill all those standing trees at the bottom are now baseball bats swinging at you when you come tumbling through (worse).

but if the snowpack is stable, it could be awesome.  the answer for every avalanche question seems to be "it depends"

please don't end up a statistic
Jan 21 2008 5:19PM
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NBCskier
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doont go back there. there is a patroller usually  chillin at the bottom waitin to pull your pass.
Jan 21 2008 5:52PM
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Skillz
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I ski that all the time when I cannot make it to Alpental...its dope, and I've never had any issues.  Snoqualmie has tried to buy that piece of property for a long time but to no avail.

And I have never seen a patroler there...why would they pull a pass for skiing an area not under their jurisdiction.  Someone please enlighten me, because I have never had any issues with it.

You'd think the Mountaineers would be the ones kicking people out, not Snoqualmie Pass.
Jan 21 2008 7:02PM
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BurgerMe
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I am guessing its under there jurisdiction because 1. there is probably a sign somewhere prohibiting it and 2. If you used their lift, they probably don't want you going from their boundary to an uncontrolled area without proper rescue gear and knowledge.and to the post above. anything over around 30 degrees thats not in super dense trees can slide ( but a lot of factors go into it). It all depends on the snowpack. basically if its over 30 degrees it WILL slide given the right conditions.
Jan 21 2008 11:41PM
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cobra_commander
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It is an avy danger area for a couple of reasons the main one being that it is an uncontrolled slope with out many snow anchors.

The second one is that  all of the snow on the slope is being held up by the weaker layer in the trees above the open area. Making the point of transition from trees to open slope very fragile.

Not to mention the trees at the bottom waiting to smash you up when the avy caries you into them and/or keeping you from escaping the path of the avy.

Be smart dig a pit.
Jan 21 2008 11:58PM
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Casey
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are you talking about mountaineers club? if its closed its not that big of deal to poach it, not really that good though.
Jan 22 2008 2:32AM
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coolhandluke
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anytime the trees are thin enough to ski through they lose their anchoring effectiveness and become a slide potential
Jan 23 2008 12:57AM
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Literature
Posts: 13673 - Karma: 3,086
Digging a pit is a good plan, and skiing the side where there are more anchors (the trees on the side of the open patch) would be intelligent. It could also make it easier to duck out if a slide started.


Jan 23 2008 1:13AM
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GANDALF
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i have gone through there once. its fun when the snow is good. didnt run into any patrollers either
Jan 23 2008 1:21PM
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apesteadlives
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yeah, um, there wont be a slide there, and no you shouldnt go in  because it is private property, you guys are all lucky we arent like other states, go to utah and duck a rope, they have a sheriff on hill and they will give you a 500 dollar ticket for going out of bounds. washington is just full of retarded legislation when it comes to skiing. personally every person i see that ducks rope around the park or anywhere else deserves to get their ass kicked.
Feb 4 2008 1:21AM
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