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CrankSkimafia
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Everyone always talks about how well their twintip works in the parks and what not, but thats not what I want. I dont ski a ton of park, but I do a some. I spend a majority of my time cranking out the turns. I still need a twin tip ski, but I want something that can hold a good line. I need to know which ski does this. I have heard that the FS Scratches do pretty well here, but I havent tried them, so I dont know first hand. I have had a pair of the older blue 1080s and enjoyed what they could do, but I want to update to something newer, maybe last years model. I only want to spend about 3-350 bucks, so please keep that in mind. Help if you can. Thanks
Sep 15 2003 12:03AM
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CaderTots
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Sep 15 2003 12:10AM
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1080s carve well

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Sep 15 2003 12:13AM
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CrankSkimafia
Posts: 176 - Karma: 10
Cant someone give me an educated answer? I dont want to hear from people who have just skied one ski. I need someone to give me more details.
Sep 15 2003 12:17AM
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SPOOOK
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i have skied the rossi scratches, the 1080 and i have the enemy. I love my enemies, and i think they are the best for carving out of the three. I can imagine the pes being just as good or even better. I would go with the pes.




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Sep 15 2003 2:55AM
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Krongos
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dude, ive skied the enemies, publics, darksides, skogens and mad trix, and the enemies and publics carve the best overall, after that id say the mad trix
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Sep 15 2003 3:22AM
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west
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yah. i have owned 1080's, line 1260's, and atomic tweaks. i've demoed most others. i'd say for sure the mad trix are great for all mtn riding. i race skiercross with them. the tweaks are pretty nice for all mtn too





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Sep 15 2003 3:27AM
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strode
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crank if two years agos 1080s carve ok for tyou then pretty much every ski excpet maybe line will do you just fine. i demoed a pair of last years 1080s and when i carved on groomers at high speed i could see, and hear, the tips smacking on the ground. i got airstyle nts, and they are nice and stable everywhere on the mountain





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Sep 15 2003 6:22AM
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LC.
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I can't speak for the Spaceframe 1080s, but I didn't think the old ones were too good at speed on hardpack. Lines are pretty soft too. Vokl V-Pros are my regular ski - nice and stiff (compared to other twins at least) - holds a really nice carve.
Sep 15 2003 4:23PM
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massivemassing
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The mad trix by far are the best. I own the scratch and they suck for carving far too soft but are a kick ass park ski, Most Lines wont carve worth shit. The pe's are probly teh best next to mad trix but the be doesnt have much of a turning radius. If you want a good twinner carving ski, look for teh ski that is teh stiffist tortionally!! Almost all teh park skis out there are not for carving, there for park and thats it. There all too soft too carve.
I race fis and trust me, I know what skis carve and what skis dont.

And dont expect to be able to carve a ski that you have been sliding rails unless the snow is extremly soft
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Sep 15 2003 9:04PM
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luxuryduck
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1080s suck in crud.
Sep 15 2003 9:22PM
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Kev
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I thought the tweaks felt like a race ski with a twin tip on the back.... wait a minute.. it is with a slighty wider waist!
But There heavy, and i didn't like them riding switch, and didn;t have that pop that other park skis have. But they can carve!


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Sep 16 2003 12:26AM
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mrb
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volkl v's and madtrix both carve well and hold up at speed
Sep 16 2003 1:29AM
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skifreak915
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How are the Trouble makers for regular skiing?
Sep 16 2003 3:01AM
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west
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demoed em last year, seemed really good, but required some work on your part





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Sep 16 2003 3:16PM
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Sep 17 2003 8:59PM
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Vtsnowski
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volkl pro are awesome all mt ski




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Sep 18 2003 12:02AM
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PurpleSkier
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my volkl dragons are narrow, but on groomers, they haul, and hold an awesome carve, reg. or switch
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Sep 18 2003 12:10AM
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CrankSkimafia
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It sounds like PEs or Mad Trix are what I want. I may lean more towars the Enemies because they are wider, but I will go with the best deal I can find. I still may end up with some 1080s if thats the best deal I can get. Thanks for the useful info everyone, keep adding it if youve got it
Sep 18 2003 5:34AM
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JZ
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last years 1080s are great carvers, i raced GS in them once and got top 10 out of nearly 100

Sep 18 2003 8:32PM
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BrodyLeven
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Look into some of Line's bigger stuff.


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Sep 18 2003 8:48PM
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bigpygmy
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04 tweaks are smooth





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Sep 20 2003 4:34AM
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Sep 21 2003 5:54AM
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mo-rod
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if you live on the east coast 1080 carve like ass! volkls carve the best straight up, followed by the PE
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Sep 21 2003 6:19PM
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Hepcat1000000000
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Someone posted that Lines are really soft, but i know Mike Nicks are stiffer than the 1080s and PEs, so i think they're a little stabler at high speeds.

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Sep 29 2003 4:17AM
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wrenegade
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Get the madtrix or atomic tweak. They are most likely the stiffest twin out there. And whatever you do, don't buy a foam core ski. When I fly down dave murray at 100km/h I feel like my 1080s are going to evaporate.






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Sep 29 2003 5:02AM
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mo-rod
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wood core is best. 1080s are way to soft. as are scratches. I found that the scratchs flap way to much when do high speed shit
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Sep 30 2003 8:43AM
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petek
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absolutely nothing beats the scratch bc



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Sep 30 2003 2:31PM
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FreshCoast
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I demoed some V-Pros last year and they were great at speed. They definatly aren't a race ski, but being a twin and being relativly wide I was super impressed with them on the groomers. Held a pretty good edge on ice and hardpack too.
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Oct 1 2003 12:47AM
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spyderman
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Back to the Trouble Makers...Are they any good?
Oct 1 2003 4:01AM
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mo-rod
Posts: 1948 - Karma: 8
TMs are solid but not the nest ski I tried this year, v-pros and PEs are great skiis if u can only have one pair
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Oct 1 2003 5:25AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I've been on Skogans, Enemies, AR5s, and Mojos. Mojos are the best for turns, but will run u like $900. Armadas were next best, but again, like $700. Enemies would be good if you can find some. They should be pretty cheap now too.
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Oct 1 2003 6:49AM
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kjfreerider
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massivemassing knows what he is talking about the mad trix are the best twins for turning, and i can sell you some 03's still in wraping for $300

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Oct 2 2003 3:38AM
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fred_reykdal
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ya ive had line 1260s, 1080's, candides and mad trix. themad trix r far and away the best for carving and all mountain in my opinion. 1080's wernt bad, but not anywhere near the mad trixs. candides sux cuz there so damn soft.
Oct 16 2003 1:09AM
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Jammu
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I have heard that tweaks are pretty decent in the slope... I wouldn't go for scratch fs if I were you
Oct 16 2003 9:56AM
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jib_tech
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its all about the mad-trix




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Oct 16 2003 11:37AM
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mammothpunks
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Pistols rule all for laying down turns. I cant believe that no one here has said that yet. Pistols are the ultimate carving ski - they leave 8 inch deep trenchs on regular groomed. They are the shit in soft snow too cuase they are like waterskis and tear through the foot deep slush spring snow here.

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Oct 16 2003 12:16PM
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wrenegade
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spring slush is one thing and hardpack/ice is different. You want a stiffer ski to handle that stuff, volkl or atomic for sure.






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Oct 16 2003 12:20PM
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Oct 16 2003 7:40PM
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strode
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i'll sell you my airstyle nt's
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Oct 16 2003 8:19PM
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Del-Gato
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PE's rule. I grew up racing and I still ski that way when I'm just making turns. The PE's have an even flex and good sidecut. The Scratch BC's aren't bad either.
A lot of twins have that flex point behind the heel that doesn't help carving all that much.
Without ever having skied them I would guess that the Fischers and Heads are pretty good.
The 4Frnts are super solid but they don't have enough sidecut.

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Oct 16 2003 8:21PM
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mo-rod
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volkls dont have a great sidecut but if u know how to flex the ski right then its smooth sailing. after trying the new scratch (not Fs or Bc) I found they turned well
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Oct 16 2003 8:42PM
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mo-rod
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the 724 AX pro is a great ski, so is the 724 AX3
great carver radii and also a stiff wood core. when I skied the '04 734AX3 I was thoroughly impressed. they performed well in the pipe, switch was fine, racing was good too.
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